itachi-san

nothing in the ballpark yet. all great guesses, but i don't see any of them satisfying the entire riddle. explanations are always welcome though, dawh's is particularly a great explanation, but also self-admittedly does not fit all the clues. keep trying!

a bit of a remix of LIS' riddle: I am big or little Apart or a part I can be two or more Chosen when you start Only now, the digit tells me But words can as well Sometimes, I'm the law But never a long spot to dwell Incidentally, can you yet tell? No?, then I'll continue to guide Jordan used me to move worldwide Meyer's part was full of me Clavell mentioned me often And I'm something you can see

for the sanctity of the riddle, i'll change a rule: the GR kills every night except the first night. I'll add this to the OP too. again, sorry about that.

ah, yes, you're right. my mistake about the GR blowing up the 3rd night. sorry about that

hehe actually, you are the exact opposite pretty much. the characters and deaths were all chosen randomly btw, not that you don't fit the part you got or anything

thanks!, and the thing you are missing is that the second day comes after the second night. the game begins with the first night. this puzzle is definitely more difficult if you haven't played, i'm sure.

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always tough to pick favorites, these all came to mind though 2001: a space odyssey empire strikes back fellowship of the ring seven mulholland dr blue velvet transformers superbad clockwork orange dumb and dumber princess bride fight club shinobi hero crouching tiger, hidden dragon ichi the killer spiderman 2 old school brotherhood of the wolf akira spirited away alice in wonderland scarface braveheart gladiator seven samurai akira kurosawa's dreams old boy audition big lebowski dead man sleepy hollow exorcist inland empire good, bad and the ugly tombstone ghost dog samurai trilogy drunken master 2 waking life a scanner darkly sin city kill bill pulp fiction reservoir dogs english patient bridge on the river kwai green mile shawshank redemption matrix dark city silence of the lambs easy rider ...since i probably won't ever stop thinking of great movies, i'll just stop there and assume these are my favorites wow, that was a lot

nice one LIS (whether this is right or not)

my pleasure, thanks for playing. i think Frost and unreality are going to post another one similar to this. that will be cool because then i would be able to make and solve them also, i fixed that last ambiguity in the OP with another clue i edited in.

Edit: just realized I'm not competely correct, because I have three roles the same as the previous poster, who only had two right. Let me know how close I am. Meanwhile, back to the drawing board... spot on! well done. though i just realized that I didn't make Brandon's and akaslickster's roles definitive enough (they can be interchanged). good job Cherry

sorry, you only have two correct characters. don't get discouraged though, try again

oh, did you post it here? i must have missed it if you did. could you post a link to it?

no, it's not. that wouldn't make for much of a puzzle it's the same scenario with different characters and a different outcome

more like i came up with it faster than you did and where's your answer? if yours is harder than this should be a breeze for you right?

I edited this post July 15th to make it easier to read, to add a couple extra clues and to make a slight tweak to one of the character's rules. Sorry for any inconvenience. Use this link to brush up on the rules back in Mafia 2 and use the rules on the very first post for this puzzle. The only modification for this puzzle is that the Grim Reaper kills every night except for the First Night. The players are the same: 1) Brandonb 2) Scott 3) akaslickster 4) pw0nzd 5) GC 6) pieman 7) dnae 8) Frost 9) Itachi 10) kingofpain 11) Nayana 12) puzzlegirl The following happened in the game: 1) No pm was sent to the Inspector on the Second Day 2) The Grim Reaper killed puzzlegirl 3) Nayana was killed by the Vigilante 4) pieman defended Frost the Second Day 5) akaslickster was killed the Third Night by the Mafia 6) GC and Scott found out who the Vigilante was at some point 7) The Innocents won on the Third Day. 8) kingofpain and itachi blew up on the Third Night 9) The Sage told everyone the Doctor was ready to save pieman the First Night 10) The Sage knew there were still 3 Mafiosos alive the Second Day 11) The Lynch failed the First Day 12) When GC was killed the Second Night, dnae got worried 13) The Illusionist never had an opportunity to defend anyone 14) The Doctor never had to save anyone 15) Brandon and kingofpain voted for Frost to be Lynched the Second Day 16) itachi found out puzzlegirl's character at some point 17) akaslickster was not a protective character So, who was who?

shouldn't there be a short pudgy skier right next to him then?

of course LIS, i never meant anything personal at all, you're one of my favorite people on this forum. i only said some dastardly things to stir up the pot because i was asked to join in at a very inopportune time for the mafia. I think LIS and KOP may have taken offense to me along the way, so i apologize, i was only playing the part guys, it was nothing personal, i just had to mess with you to take some attention away from the matter at hand - which didn't work b/c LIS picked up on it of course... and KOP: getting killed first sukd, but that's part of the game. i was disapponted, but fine with it. That has nothing to do with me not playing mafia 4. yes i agree, but the rules could have been tweaked during the game to slowly leak the id's of the inactives to the active players. having other players fill the role causes way too much problems because they obviously knew who they were before too. thanks for acknowledging that because that's really the root of the problem for me. i was asked to take a role to help the game continue and it turned out to be a very difficult one to pull off at the time. I was pretty stressed about it and was left out to dry for a very long time by the one who asked me to come help.

lol gc, this would be nice to hear from anyone else, but it was you who wanted to kill me right off the bat, thus creating 'a huge void' right? Nah, you guys were fine without me. Seriously, have fun, but I'm gonna sit 4 out.

i only got pissed at you for th first time like 10 minutes ago when you said i pmed you that bullsh*t. otherwise it was all very fun and i thank you, but now i have a sour taste in my mouth and i'm done with this

unreality is playing (just on another forum) and he "get's pissed" when people take too long and don't pm him. and the he "gets pissed" when people pm him to move the game faster (24 hr for a lynch should be plenty). you can't have it both ways as far as i'm concerned

wow, i never said anything like that. i said that if i had to wait a lot more time for the night post i would quit, thus ending the game edit: look, just take me off the mafia 4 list. i've had enough of this and don't push me too far or... (you know). apparently, there's more to life than mafia, so i will go do some of that stuff, whatever it is...

i was too busy blowing up for you to kill me anyway, so you would have just been watching fireworks. count yourself lucky you weren't there to blow up too...