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Oh come on, really now? Guys, sex is sex. If the military is cool with heterosexual sex, they better be cool with homosexual sex too. I don't want to go too into it because of the amount of kids on this site, but using your butt, mouth, and fingers* is going to go on in the male-female relationships anyway. ...And I mean, in a military environment, you're pretty with what you can do (I think? Can you bring person... stuff..?), so if anything, provided proper safety precautions are taken, gay sex is safer. So, I'm convinced that this remains an issue because it actually is, but because people are homophobes. (I liked Dawh's gawd point. ;P ) You want to stop people from getting killed? *shrugs* Make the penalty capital punishment. Tbh, if you're a close-minded homophobic prat who can't accept other peoples' lifestyles, you don't deserve the honor of being someone that other people actually rely on. * Haha, sorry for the terminology. Keeping it as g-rated as possible. Oh, hey, I actually just remembered something. We had a blood-drive at school a while back. Did you guys know gay dudes can't donate blood?

I mean, they shouldn't ask, period. But you shouldn't get kicked out for being gay, even if they do think it's in your best interest, because it's your choice to be there.

Alright guys.. time to stop before the topic gets locked before the game begins.

*is feeling geeky and happy because Unreality taught my how to code some basic parts of my algorithm *

..A joking post in Terminator Mafia made me think of this.. but what do you guys think about the policy? I'm sort of undecided on this one. The "don't ask" part I definitely agree with. As an employer, your employees orientation really shouldn't determine whether or not s/he gets the job and frankly it's none of your business. The "don't tell" is bull. Freedom of speech? Broadcasting it probably isn't the best ideas (homophobes..) but I don't see why you shouldn't be able to confide your sexual preferences in a friend without fear of being kicked out. But, tbh, I can see it from both perspectives. Military: We're here to be serious. We don't need distractions. A bunch of people attracted to each other bunking together = sex = bad. ...But DA/DT doesn't stop them from sleeping together anyway, so it's not really a valid point. It might reduce it.. but.. dunno. People: It's a free country. This is discrimination. This violates my rights. Military: The military is a private establishment (er.. sorta?), you have whatever rights we give you. People: But that's wrong! ..I dunno, making this up as I go along. Tired. Meh. I'm leaning with the people on this one.. Thoughts? (I was going to post it as the above, but I just googled whether or not you're allowed to have sex in the military, and found this: Mind changed. Consenting adults can do whatever the want. Shouldn't matter with who, if the military is cool with sex anyway. So.. the policy is uncool. Ick, sorry if that's confusing. Typing whilst thinking, to myself, about this for the first time. That's the thought process. meh, tired. Discuss!

All's fair in love and war.. but why make war when we can love? Hai thar Medji. I'll write in pink just for you because I know you love it so much!

Love you too, Medji. <333

^*shrugs* Interesting, cute, but doesn't explain why. *edit* That was a reply to Romulus, btw, not Unreality. I really need to start quoting. >_>

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Stolen from this Facebook group. (This might be funnier if you're actually in IB..) My personal favorite: IB Latin students can't decline sex. 1) We can fit two years worth into a month. 2) Re-take? What’s a re-take? We get it right first time. 3) We have incredible endurance. 4) No matter how much work we have, we can still make free time for ourselves. 5) We can serenade our partners in at least 2 different languages. 6) Our Physicists are experts at handling the forces between two objects. 7) Our Biologists know their way around the human body better than any other 6th form student. 8) The chemistry in a relationship is mere child’s play to our higher Chemists. 9) Our Mathematicians’ knowledge of projectile motion means that things will never get messy – unless you want them to. 10) We are experts at getting the maximum amount of work done with the least amount of effort. 11) Because we do it with creativity, action and (give you a) service. 12) We have experience in extended activity. 13) We can take it to a Higher Level. 14) "A-level students are like tired old bangers; they'll do the job, but it'll be a bit boring. IB students go like Ferraris." 15) Our English syllabus puts a lot of emphasis on oral assessment. 16) No need for modules here; we do it all in one go. 17) It's widely recognised that IB is longer and harder. 18) Haven't you seen the IB people wandering around saying how f***ed they are? 19) We're used to going all night long. 20) Our Computer Scientists can push all the right buttons. 21) Our Economists know just how to supply what you demand. 22) A session with one of our Pyschologists will relieve stress and help you sleep at night; and I'm not talking about Insomnia Therapy. 23) We IBers fall asleep in class so that we can get more done at night. 24) Experiments conducted around the world have at last confirmed what we have long suspected: sleeping with an IB student can in some cases double the IQ of a student doing a less rigorous qualification. 25) Our Group 4 students are fearless when it comes to experimentation. 26) We treat you like we treat our homework - we slam you on the table and do you all night long. 27) Thanks to TOK, we have several different methods for getting to 'know' you. 28) We go beyond doing just what we have to do, to make things more interesting. 29) Our Geographers know what to push and how to pull. 30) If you want, we work well in larger groups. 31) We can think creatively and come from all sorts of new angles. 32) Essays aren't the only long thing we can pull out of our pockets at a moment's notice. 33) Our musicians will bring things to a slow swell followed by a climax. 34) Our Design & Technology students know just what materials and methods are right for you. 35) We can assess you both externally and internally. 36) Hey, we do need some reason to sleep. 37) We're willing to try new methods to get better results. 38) We've never been known to finish early. 39) It's not just our essays that are extended. 40) Like variety? We're international! 41) Our Historians will make it a night to remember. 42) Our Business students know all the right places to do their business. 43) Give the Kama Sutra to an IB student, and they won't just read and remember, but analyse and improve. 44) Our Visual Arts students aren't just aesthetically pleasing. 45) IB students aren't just better prepared for college academically. 46) Our Design & Technology students can handle a short nail or a long screw. 47) We penetrate topics from every direction. 48) Our Music students will get you into the rhythm. 49) Our Environmentalists know all about getting dirty. 50) We're all-rounders, by which we mean we're all around 'er. 51) Our Theatre students can play any part you want them to. 52) Our Mathematicians are always looking to have sec^2 x once they've differentiated tan x. 53) It's long, hard and rough to begin with, but worth it at the end. 54) High stress levels reduce the chance of pregnancy. 55) Our Musicians are great with their fingers.

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I'd actually say choice one is correct. But that just proves this is subjective. Probability wise, choice two leaves you with more people (if, say, one million people were given this option), but most people feel inclined to fend for themselves when it comes to that, because our evolutionary instincts tell us WE want to survive, not necessarily everyone else. I think it's a combination of logic and instinct, but I have absolutely nothing to back that up.

Talked to one of my teachers today. My argument needs more work before it takes off, but I think I might actually be able to do this. We're, as of now, unsure how the standing policy in my county works. My class's student council members definitely said we have to stand, and there was an entire student congress meeting dedicated to it, but my teacher said we don't. So, dunno. Standing or not, it shouldn't be in schools.

Think again. I'm not the one that voted you down, bro. That was someone else (or more than one person) because mine seems to have gone back up. (The amount I actually care about my reputation on these boards for the little vote things is little, because I've been here long enough to be known/liked/respected by most of the users anyway. It was just a total d**k move.) Where am I being a hypocrite exactly? The thing about not entirely understanding the pledge but wanting to remove it? (I've created my own meaning for it, if that's different than the intended meaning, the schools are at fault.) You yourself are a total hypocrite by fighting for the freedom of others and then calling said fights for freedom "hogwash" just because they disagree with what you feel if your perfect view of government (with freedom, justice, and no right to think differently for all ). Do you actually have any reasons why this should exist in schools? How is this different than prayer (other than by the US actually existing, lol)? Annd, brb school.

Pablos, you should read Monkey Girl, a book that points out the flaws in intelligent design and why it isn't a scientifically acceptable theory (and therefore isn't taught in schools). ID = Creationism, which this book explains, along with its origins (as dawh pointed out). Funny book.

I'd love to know why this post was voted down twice? I see we no longer regard thanking people with content. If you disagree with me, that's cool, but act like an adult about it and don't just down-vote posts. ..Or at least posts that have nothing to actually do with the discussion? I only post because my rating seems to have plummeted since I was last online. Mature, very mature.

Medji, I'm making this quick because I have to leave for school about... 5 minutes ago. Dude, entirely missing my point. Parents should be the ones teaching their children these sorts of things. Admittedly, "don't hit" is a good rule, and some forms of indoctrination are, but specifically religious and political indoctrination should be done by the parents and NOT the schools. I agree with what an earlier poster said. Teach the kid about the pledge, but leave it up to the kid if s/he wants to say it or not. ..But not in schools, because it's not appropriate to pray there or take school-time away to make pledges to pizzas, the internet, bands, etc. Btw, I AM helping my country. I am a proponent of fairness, whether others are able to see the problem or not. Romulus, ftw. I'll read later after school.

Medji, I'm sorry, because I seem to have offended you, and that wasn't my intention. I just want to clear up some things. Firstly, dude, I'm not against America. This country is awesome. Freedom of speech is an amazing things. The Pledge of Allegiance is fine, and a personal CHOICE. I would never call out someone who chooses to say it, and I think it's good to love your country. However, FORCING students to say anything goes against the very freedoms our soldiers are fighting for. By making the pledge a mandatory part of every day life, a students' right to an uninfluenced education is being infringed. I go to school to learn, not make political promises. No, I don't. Do you know why? Because the pledge in a historical context has NEVER been covered in the schools I have attended. The first week of kindergarten we recited it a few times as a class to ensure we knew it, and never questioned it. Do you except four-five year olds to understand what they're saying? Some might, the vast majority don't. This is the very definition of indoctrination. Around third grade we learned that we could politely decline (no teacher ever told us, some kid just decided not to say it some day, and a bunch of my class mates made a big deal about it), but presence and standing is still mandatory. Yes, everyone has the right to say the pledge, I get that. But instructional time set aside for it is *wrong*, because schools are secular (in a political sense) institutions where students go to learn. I am taking it to my school board. I have about a 200ish person long list of students who go to my school who agree with me. Not bad for a few days. We're going to continue getting signatures until the end of December and submit a formal complaint during the last week before winter holidays. I don't yet know where it will go, but being able to point to an online petition with more signatures is never a bad thing. ...Only because you disagree with it. All you've proven with this comment is that you're extremely close-minded when it comes to issues about your country and hostile to those who disagree with you.

Well, yeah. You make the teacher actually expect something from us. If you admit to doing work, it's a reminder that the work was actually assigned..

^ Yeah, and when you don't get straight A's you practically pray that those you consider your equal didn't either.

I think it's sort of similar to you calling your own mom a b*tch. Example: Me: Eugh, my mom is such a b*tch. Friend: Why? Me: *rants about mom* Friend: That sucks. =/ A week later at my house: Mom: WILL YOU GUYS STOP SCREAMING. Friend: Dude, your mom is such a b*tch. Me: Hey, stfu, that's my mom.

Thanks.

It's not about the "Under God". It's the fact that students are being forced to say things they don't want to say/don't understand and speaking out against it will get you told off or teased by your classmates. It's not the wording of the pledge I don't agree with (well... different story), it's that the pledge shouldn't exist in schools in the first place.

To do it or not do it?