itachi-san Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Hi Impervious and GC! You both can now use this forum for all discussions for the game. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 My becoming toast is an almost certainty, but I will try to resist as much as possible. AI does not look too decisive at the moment, so I have tried to cash in on that. Trying something won't harm us as we cannot get any worse from here. If AI accepts, Bb may have to waste a guess on Hermes carrying me to safety. At the very least I will go down fighting. Honestly? I think we should go the unpredictable route on Hermes. If he doesn't accept (I don't think he will), then attack Riranor, and move TB to attacking Bb (it's 1 50% kill instead of 2). If he accepts... I don't know. You'll live 'til tomorrow night, so maybe attacking Kat2 would be worthwhile, but I think that would leave Imp2 and TB kind of swinging in the breeze down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Yeah! But Nestor will boost it to 100%. Every damn Achaean is a barrier right now. Oh yeah, forgot about that one. If you end up dying hopefully I survive, and itachi gives me a kill role. Not that I want you dead, of course, i'd rather die than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 grey cells Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Honestly? I think we should go the unpredictable route on Hermes. If he doesn't accept (I don't think he will), then attack Riranor, and move TB to attacking Bb (it's 1 50% kill instead of 2). If he accepts... I don't know. You'll live 'til tomorrow night, so maybe attacking Kat2 would be worthwhile, but I think that would leave Imp2 and TB kind of swinging in the breeze down there. I know AI accepting is far-fetched. But Bb will be guessing that I will be targeting him and Riranor. So wouldn't it be a 0% chance of a kill? Of course, Bb might think that we will not attack Riranor as we know he will guess that and nullify that kill. And so Bb wouldn't guess that. A confusing cycle but again he doesn't have a lot of guess options, so he will probably guess me attacking him and Riranor. That would nullify my kill attempt. A 50% option is a better choice I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 I know AI accepting is far-fetched. But Bb will be guessing that I will be targeting him and Riranor. So wouldn't it be a 0% chance of a kill? Of course, Bb might think that we will not attack Riranor as we know he will guess that and nullify that kill. And so Bb wouldn't guess that. A confusing cycle but again he doesn't have a lot of guess options, so he will probably guess me attacking him and Riranor. That would nullify my kill attempt. A 50% option is a better choice I think. Well, if we're going to have a lower percentage, I'd rather it be used on Hermes, I suppose. However, I feel like that'll work its way into the guesses, as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Well, if we're going to have a lower percentage, I'd rather it be used on Hermes, I suppose. However, I feel like that'll work its way into the guesses, as well. Its unfortunate the we can only do so many actions making it easier for Bb to guess what we'll do. However we're bound to get at least one correct action in as there are far too many combinations for Bb to choose from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 grey cells Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Its unfortunate the we can only do so many actions making it easier for Bb to guess what we'll do. However we're bound to get at least one correct action in as there are far too many combinations for Bb to choose from. That's why we needed Hades. We were a bit complacent at that stage, we never considered saving you. But the past's gone, no use crying over spilled milk. I agree SG but I think the only chance I have of killing anyone is AI. So I will stick with it for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 That's why we needed Hades. We were a bit complacent at that stage, we never considered saving you. But the past's gone, no use crying over spilled milk. I agree SG but I think the only chance I have of killing anyone is AI. So I will stick with it for now. I support killing Hermes 100%. He's as good as on the other team, anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 That's why we needed Hades. We were a bit complacent at that stage, we never considered saving you. But the past's gone, no use crying over spilled milk. I agree SG but I think the only chance I have of killing anyone is AI. So I will stick with it for now. i concur with tat, even is he chooses to "accept" or proposal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 grey cells Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 i concur with tat, even is he chooses to "accept" or proposal Who said I am not going to attack him even if he accepts. All is fair in love and war. EDITed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 grey cells Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Time to make the moves, I guess: Cerberus: Attack AI Move: 1 step down to Sisyphus' lake. Argus: Move: Theseus: Attack Bb or Riranor?? Move: Medusa: Cannot act Move: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 grey cells Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Good night guys. Past 1:00 a.m. here. Itachi: Can the night go the full 24 hrs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Theseus: Attack Bb or Riranor?? Move: Bb or Riranor is a WIFOM puzzle. It, in my mind, is most logical to attack Bb, both from an emotional and a logical standpoint. A.) He's the figurehead, and B.) I think it gives us a chance of killing Kat2. Therefore, the best attack is likely to be Riranor, but Riranor is the one that can die, so therefore the best attack is against Bb, so THEREfore Bb will guess that, so therefore the best attack is against Riranor, so therefore Bb will guess THAT... So, I don't think it matters who we attack, unless one of you has some insight into what Bb will guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Bb or Riranor is a WIFOM puzzle. It, in my mind, is most logical to attack Bb, both from an emotional and a logical standpoint. A.) He's the figurehead, and B.) I think it gives us a chance of killing Kat2. Therefore, the best attack is likely to be Riranor, but Riranor is the one that can die, so therefore the best attack is against Bb, so THEREfore Bb will guess that, so therefore the best attack is against Riranor, so therefore Bb will guess THAT... So, I don't think it matters who we attack, unless one of you has some insight into what Bb will guess. I don't think it matters. it is def a WIFOM type situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Cerberus: Attack AI Move: 1 step down to Sisyphus' lake. Argus: twiddle his thumbs Move: 3 steps to ixion Theseus: Attack Bb or Riranor?? Move: Medusa: Cannot act Move: nada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 itachi-san Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Good night guys. Past 1:00 a.m. here. Itachi: Can the night go the full 24 hrs? Sure, I'd only shorten it if every single player wanted it. 24 hours it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 itachi-san Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Cerberus: Attack AI Move: 1 step down to Sisyphus' lake. -On Surface before Night Argus: twiddle his thumbs Move: 3 steps to ixion Theseus: Attack Bb or Riranor?? Move: Medusa: Cannot act Move: nada Oh sorry that I didn't inform you about Nestor last night. I just read through the latest posts and Bb talking about it is indeed accurate. GC was held on the Surface by Nestor last night and is there right now. Nestor has the secret ability to hold someone in place. I ran into a bit of a conundrum that I hope you guys don't mind too much. Nestor and GC were both in Tartarus last night since GC wanted to move from the Surface to the Swamp, but Nestor's ability is to prevent movement, meaning GC is stuck on the Surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Oh sorry that I didn't inform you about Nestor last night. I just read through the latest posts and Bb talking about it is indeed accurate. GC was held on the Surface by Nestor last night and is there right now. Nestor has the secret ability to hold someone in place. I ran into a bit of a conundrum that I hope you guys don't mind too much. Nestor and GC were both in Tartarus last night since GC wanted to move from the Surface to the Swamp, but Nestor's ability is to prevent movement, meaning GC is stuck on the Surface. but if they were both in tartarus when nestor stopped him would that mean GC is still in tartarus, or else the attack wouldn't have occured.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 itachi-san Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 but if they were both in tartarus when nestor stopped him would that mean GC is still in tartarus, or else the attack wouldn't have occured.... like I said, it's a bit of a conundrum in the game Nestor holds the player's original position. It worked because they were both in Tararus, but GC's original position was the Surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 *still confused* oh well I've a feeling Bb's going to off me tonight anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 itachi-san Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 *still confused* oh well I've a feeling Bb's going to off me tonight anyway... It was kind of moot anyway, since Athena was going to block GC also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 itachi-san Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 If the same action is tried tonight, I would accept it. Here's my reasoning: Nestor (if in Tartarus) should be able to hold GC on the Surface, since GC would have to be in Tartarus if not for Nestor. Let me know if you think this is not cool or if you guys are OK with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 If the same action is tried tonight, I would accept it. Here's my reasoning: Nestor (if in Tartarus) should be able to hold GC on the Surface, since GC would have to be in Tartarus if not for Nestor. Let me know if you think this is not cool or if you guys are OK with it. Well it kind of sucks if nestor can keep doing it day after day after day. we'd never get anywhere with that. in the end, you're the host, so your call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 (edited) If the same action is tried tonight, I would accept it. Here's my reasoning: Nestor (if in Tartarus) should be able to hold GC on the Surface, since GC would have to be in Tartarus if not for Nestor. Let me know if you think this is not cool or if you guys are OK with it. As an expert on the subject of crossing I seem to remember the rule being that you must be on the same side of the person that you are trying to prevent from crossing at the end of your movement. For example.... If I was on the Surface, I could prevent anyone who is on the surface from crossing the river, however, I would be free to move across. All those in Tartarus are free to move to the surface if they have the correct number of moves, I would be unable to stop them. If I was in Tartarus, I could prevent anyone who is in tartarus from crossing the river, however, I would be free to move across to the surface. All those on the surface are free to move to Tartarus, I cannot prevent that. Those were the rules while I was alive. What you choose to do now is up to you. EDIT: Refer to post #401 Edited March 12, 2009 by IDoNotExist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 itachi-san Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 As an expert on the subject of crossing I seem to remember the rule being that you must be on the same side of the person that you are trying to prevent from crossing at the end of your movement. For example.... If I was on the Surface, I could prevent anyone who is on the surface from crossing the river, however, I would be free to move across. All those in Tartarus are free to move to the surface if they have the correct number of moves, I would be unable to stop them. If I was in Tartarus, I could prevent anyone who is in tartarus from crossing the river, however, I would be free to move across to the surface. All those on the surface are free to move to Tartarus, I cannot prevent that. Those were the rules while I was alive. What you choose to do now is up to you. EDIT: Refer to post #401 Well, I think this is a little mixed up. It's more like: "If you were on the Surface (as your Night's destination). All that matters during the night is the desired final location of each player. I made that clear when the game first started. This would have GC and Nestor both in Tartarus, and therefore Nestor could act. Say Nestor's act fails. Both characters would be in Tartarus this night, so why did it fail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Well, I think this is a little mixed up. It's more like: "If you were on the Surface (as your Night's destination). All that matters during the night is the desired final location of each player. I made that clear when the game first started. This would have GC and Nestor both in Tartarus, and therefore Nestor could act. Say Nestor's act fails. Both characters would be in Tartarus this night, so why did it fail? This is saying that GC will cross to tartarus and then Nestor will send him back to the surface instead of preventing his movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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