vommack Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 I have no idea what OOC is, but the rules about what can be gathered from the Posts are in the OP, and the logical conclusions that can be drawn from "it will not be clear which [redirect/block] it is" . OOC, I meant out of character; i.e. regardless of the gender of my role, I, ShadowAngel, am female, and that's where the use of feminine pronouns when Queen Bee targets me come from. This is plenty clear now to me. However, that just leads me to believe that either you or Kikacat (not both) is a baddie. I am sure you think the same about me and Kikacat as well, so c'est la vie... Actually, I've cause to believe Kikacat is clear. So unless Vomm was goodie-redirected N3, you're my only clear suspect. EDIT: goodie-redirected or Lex-manipulated. There is no goodie redirect... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofpain Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 1. Aaryan - REMOVED [Vandal Savage] 2. Panther 3. dee_tot - voting for Kikacat123 4. Kikacat123- voting for Panther5. Araver - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light" 6. Vommack 7. Kingofpain - voting for Flamebirde 8. Flamebirde - voting for Kingofpain9. Minesweeper - DEAD [Red Arrow] Lynched10. MikeD - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light" 11. ShadowAngel7 - voting for Kingofpain I am not sure why I am unable to edit my posts while others can... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowAngel7 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 I have no idea what OOC is, but the rules about what can be gathered from the Posts are in the OP, and the logical conclusions that can be drawn from "it will not be clear which [redirect/block] it is" . OOC, I meant out of character; i.e. regardless of the gender of my role, I, ShadowAngel, am female, and that's where the use of feminine pronouns when Queen Bee targets me come from. This is plenty clear now to me. However, that just leads me to believe that either you or Kikacat (not both) is a baddie. I am sure you think the same about me and Kikacat as well, so c'est la vie... Actually, I've cause to believe Kikacat is clear. So unless Vomm was goodie-redirected N3, you're my only clear suspect. EDIT: goodie-redirected or Lex-manipulated. There is no goodie redirect... woops....shows how much attention I've been paying.....so unless Lex wanted info and IDed you right, kingofpain is the only clear suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofpain Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 The only argument I can make against that is that with the early knowledge of Aaryan's guilt, Vommack would have been a prime target for Lex's manipulations right from an early stage. Which still means vommack is innocent and knowing that I am, I can only suspect flamebirde strongly (barring a baddie redirecting baddie scenario with you and kikacat) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowAngel7 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 The only argument I can make against that is that with the early knowledge of Aaryan's guilt, Vommack would have been a prime target for Lex's manipulations right from an early stage. Which still means vommack is innocent and knowing that I am, I can only suspect flamebirde strongly (barring a baddie redirecting baddie scenario with you and kikacat) Is your only reason for suspecting flame his/her lying low? Just checking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee_tot Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 "There is no goodie redirect" Hmmm.. - just thinking of something. @kingofpain, I'm new here, but from what I notice, there is limited time that's allows you to edit post. Ok, changing my vote. 1. Aaryan - REMOVED [Vandal Savage] 2. Panther 3. dee_tot - voting for Kingofpain 4. Kikacat123- voting for Panther5. Araver - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light" 6. Vommack 7. Kingofpain - voting for Flamebirde 8. Flamebirde - voting for Kingofpain9. Minesweeper - DEAD [Red Arrow] Lynched10. MikeD - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light" 11. ShadowAngel7 - voting for Kingofpain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vommack Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Well, I guess it's time for the old Vommack to vote, huh? 1. Aaryan - REMOVED [Vandal Savage] 2. Panther 3. dee_tot - voting for Kingofpain 4. Kikacat123- voting for Panther5. Araver - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light" 6. Vommack - voting for Kingofpain 7. Kingofpain - voting for Flamebirde 8. Flamebirde - voting for Kingofpain9. Minesweeper - DEAD [Red Arrow] Lynched10. MikeD - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light" 11. ShadowAngel7 - voting for Kingofpain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoruichi-san Posted June 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Fixing roster. Watchtower: Y-san Roster: 1. Aaryan - REMOVED [Vandal Savage] 2. Panther 3. dee_tot - voting for Kingofpain 4. Kikacat123- voting for Panther5. Araver - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light" 6. Vommack - voting for Kingofpain 7. Kingofpain - voting for Flamebirde 8. Flamebirde - voting for Kingofpain9. Minesweeper - DEAD [Red Arrow] Lynched10. MikeD - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light" 11. ShadowAngel7 - voting for Kingofpain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofpain Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) In trying to find baddies (only mafia), vommack - clear based on aaryan prediction + being attacked shadow - clear because targeted twice by Queen Bee dee_tot - not 100% clear, but seems to be a goodie (N1 post) Panther - clear if vommack was not redirected flamebirde - I have no info on his/her character kikacat - could be a baddie, but shadow seems to think otherwise. Shadow, again... if your reason to believe kikacat's innocence is based on nights 1 or 3 and your character is a guy, please reconsider your innocence of kikacat. If shadow still believes in kikacat after my above argument, then I am convinced vommack was redirected on N3 and Panther is a baddie (but I got no proof). Flamebirde/dee_tot are suspects for the other baddie role, so I pick flamebirde because dee_tot seems more innocent. I retract my vote until Shadow decides. If shadow keeps her vote on me, then I vote against Panther. Watchtower: Y-san Roster: 1. Aaryan - REMOVED [Vandal Savage] 2. Panther 3. dee_tot - voting for Kingofpain 4. Kikacat123- voting for Panther5. Araver - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light" 6. Vommack - voting for Kingofpain 7. Kingofpain - voting for Panther 8. Flamebirde - voting for Kingofpain9. Minesweeper - DEAD [Red Arrow] Lynched10. MikeD - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light" 11. ShadowAngel7 - voting for Kingofpain Edited June 18, 2013 by kingofpain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowAngel7 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 In trying to find baddies (only mafia), vommack - clear based on aaryan prediction + being attacked shadow - clear because targeted twice by Queen Bee dee_tot - not 100% clear, but seems to be a goodie (N1 post) Panther - clear if vommack was not redirected flamebirde - I have no info on his/her character kikacat - could be a baddie, but shadow seems to think othesrwise. Shadow, again... if your reason to believe kikacat's innocence is based on nights 1 or 3 and your character is a guy, please reconsider your innocence of kikacat. My belief in kika is based on N2; I just saw no reason to mention it until Kika was in question. If shadow still believes in kikacat after my above argument, then I am convinced vommack was redirected on N3 and Panther is a baddie (but I got no proof). This does indeed seem a likely scenario to me. Flamebirde/dee_tot are suspects for the other baddie role, so I pick flamebirde because dee_tot seems more innocent. Agreed that dee seems more innocent, whereas flame is essentially a blank. If flame defends, I'll have to reconsider, but for now I think I"m willing to go with you on your suspicion of flame. I retract my vote until Shadow decides. If shadow keeps her vote on me, then I vote against Panther. Replies to specific comments in turquoise. 1. Aaryan - REMOVED [Vandal Savage]2. Panther3. dee_tot - voting for Kingofpain4. Kikacat123- voting for Panther5. Araver - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light"6. Vommack - voting for Kingofpain7. Kingofpain - voting for Panther8. Flamebirde - voting for Kingofpain9. Minesweeper - DEAD [Red Arrow] Lynched10. MikeD - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light"11. ShadowAngel7 - voting for Flamebirde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofpain Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Ok... now I am looking at Panther/Flamebirde as the remaining mafia. So I'd like to hear both their defenses (mine is plain for all to see) 1. Aaryan - REMOVED [Vandal Savage]2. Panther3. dee_tot - voting for Kingofpain4. Kikacat123- voting for Panther5. Araver - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light"6. Vommack - voting for Kingofpain7. Kingofpain - voting for Flamebirde/Panther8. Flamebirde - voting for Kingofpain9. Minesweeper - DEAD [Red Arrow] Lynched10. MikeD - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light"11. ShadowAngel7 - voting for Flamebirde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Sorry for being inactive folks, I'm at an engineering/physics week thing at a nearby university, and I've been doing so much that I completely forgot about this for a bit Gimme some time to read over and I'll say something more relevant Also, could someone remind me when the day ends please, I don't wanna miss it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowAngel7 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) Sorry for being inactive folks, I'm at an engineering/physics week thing at a nearby university, and I've been doing so much that I completely forgot about this for a bit Gimme some time to read over and I'll say something more relevant Also, could someone remind me when the day ends please, I don't wanna miss it Day ends in 8 hrs, 13 minutes, Panther. EDIT: also, how long's a bit? Edited June 18, 2013 by ShadowAngel7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofpain Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) EDIT: I am probably in the wrong timezone so ignore my comment about day ending in 2 hours and I apologize to ShadowAngel for making her reply to a wrong comment ( see post 165) Edited June 18, 2013 by kingofpain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowAngel7 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) EDIT: replying to an edited away comment, ignore this! Edited June 18, 2013 by ShadowAngel7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kikacat123 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) Accidentally clicked post, please ignore this.. Edited June 18, 2013 by Kikacat123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kikacat123 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 I would like to change my vote to kingofpain. Also, from past comments, it looks as if shadow is probably innocent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowAngel7 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 1. Aaryan - REMOVED [Vandal Savage]2. Panther3. dee_tot - voting for Kingofpain4. Kikacat123- voting for Kingofpain5. Araver - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light"6. Vommack - voting for Kingofpain7. Kingofpain - voting for Flamebirde/Panther8. Flamebirde - voting for Kingofpain9. Minesweeper - DEAD [Red Arrow] Lynched10. MikeD - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light"11. ShadowAngel7 - voting for Flamebirde Editing Kika's as directed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 I apologise for not leaving any hints, but, as someone (I think it was Shadow) has already said, we need to be careful not to let Klarion or Lex Luthor know them :/ As for my vote, I am unsure... I have a feeling that Shadow is trustworthy, and she seems to trust dee_tot, but I dunno I have no idea about flamebirde, and I'm sorta sitting on the fence with kingofpain. He seems like either a goodie, or a pretty clever baddie. With regards to dee_tot, I thought he tried a little hard to hint at his role - was it a clever ploy on his part? In that case, is Shadow in on it? Overall, I am most suspicious of dee_tot, flamebirde (cause I know nothing about him lol), then maybe kikacat... I am most inclined to trust Shadow, and the others are somewhere in between... 1. Aaryan - REMOVED [Vandal Savage] 2. Panther voting for Flamebirde 3. dee_tot - voting for Kingofpain 4. Kikacat123- voting for Kingofpain 5. Araver - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light" 6. Vommack - voting for Kingofpain 7. Kingofpain - voting for Flamebirde/Panther 8. Flamebirde - voting for Kingofpain 9. Minesweeper - DEAD [Red Arrow] Lynched 10. MikeD - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light" 11. ShadowAngel7 - voting for Flamebirde For now, I will trust Shadow and vote for Flame, if only to provoke a response - and if i don't get back on in time to see any replies and change my vote accordingly, it won't change the result anyway Also, if someone could fix the colours please, I'm on my iPod and it hates colours on BD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowAngel7 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 1. Aaryan - REMOVED [Vandal Savage]2. Panther - voting for Flamebirde3. dee_tot - voting for Kingofpain4. Kikacat123- voting for Kingofpain5. Araver - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light"6. Vommack - voting for Kingofpain7. Kingofpain - voting for Flamebirde/Panther8. Flamebirde - voting for Kingofpain9. Minesweeper - DEAD [Red Arrow] Lynched10. MikeD - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light"11. ShadowAngel7 - voting for Flamebirde Fixing Panther's colors. Kingofpain, which vote of yours should be counted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofpain Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) I'll keep the flamebirde vote if only to hear a defense... @dee_tot, vommack: I implore you to reconsider. I know I am not dropping many hints, but please look at the previous comments. I feel like flamebirde is just as shady, but just quieter. Is it really not possible that you were redirected on N3, vommack? Please read my defense again and note that my most significant accuser (shadow) changed her vote to flamebirde after my defense. Do not lynch me simply because I made some silly assumptions about the rules of the game and have been participating in discussions. With 7 people left and potentially 3 baddies remaining, this might be the last chance for the goodies to win. 1. Aaryan - REMOVED [Vandal Savage]2. Panther - voting for Flamebirde3. dee_tot - voting for Kingofpain4. Kikacat123- voting for Kingofpain5. Araver - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light"6. Vommack - voting for Kingofpain7. Kingofpain - voting for Flamebirde8. Flamebirde - voting for Kingofpain9. Minesweeper - DEAD [Red Arrow] Lynched10. MikeD - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light"11. ShadowAngel7 - voting for Flamebirde Edited June 18, 2013 by kingofpain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamebirde Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) I am unlynchable, so I suggest you stop trying. If you get enough votes to lynch me, tomorrow someone will definitely die in the lynch. I know I've been laying low, but I am a goodie. EDIT: My defense sounds pretty weak, I know, but trust me on this. Edited June 18, 2013 by flamebirde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kikacat123 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 I know that you and deetot are goodies, flamebirde. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) And why would you suddenly state that, Kikacat? That sudden statement combined with Flamebirde's rather ineffective one of 'you can't lynch me, so you may as well not try' isn't exactly helping either of you in my eyes... My vote stands for now. What say you, Vommack? Not heard from you over the whole Kingofpain/Flamebirde argument recently Edit - Just so you guys know, if I don't post anything else, I have probably fallen asleep (I'm nodding off here ) Edited June 19, 2013 by Panther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vommack Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 I've spilled all the guts I have to spill. Well, not all of them, but my stomach might be along shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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