plasmid Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Two for the Elven kings nearest the sky Four for the Dwarf lords who work on the stone Eight for Mortal Men puffed up with pride One for the Dark Lord in his dark home In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie One to reclaim the throne, no one will find them You are to bring him, and in the light bind him From the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 tiger_lily111 Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 changing a diaper or making a batch of s'mores Will have to keep trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) is it : RINGS or some other artifact related to LOTR ? [coz u seem to have changed a lot from the original poem ] Edited February 23, 2011 by Parth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 A champion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 plasmid Posted February 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Nothing to do with diapers or smores. I'm guessing that the champion guess came from the numbers in the riddle corresponding to the number of participants at various rounds in a tournament, but there are a number of other clues to be explained. And the answer has nothing at all to do with the Lord of the Rings. But if you do look over the parts of inscription that were changed in the riddle, then it would be safe to assume that the parts that were changed have been changed for a reason. I suspect that this one will be very difficult. In part because I was limited in the number of clues I could include while keeping the structure of the Lord of the Rings inscription. In part because the answer itself is not something of quite so common knowledge as I usually riddle about, and not all that universal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 is it something related to Christianity or Da Vinci Code or some secret society ? What exactlly are u asking for in the riddle ? Are u asking for some artifact or some person ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 plasmid Posted February 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Nah, I haven't gone THAT esoteric. Not any obscure artifact or person from a book that less than 90% of the population would know about. I'm looking for what the "two" "four" "eight" and "one" things are in this riddle. It's still something that practically everyone is familiar with, and most people if they were to see the answer would then realize what the clues were all about and why the sixth and seventh lines were changed the way they are. As far as what I meant when I said the answer is not all that universal... well, you'll understand when you see the answer, and why it would make it more difficult to come up with the answer than I usually shoot for when I write riddles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I know 2, 4, 8, and 1 are powers of two... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 plasmid Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Just for the sake of not having people wander too far down a wrong path, I'll go ahead and say that the fact that the numbers are powers of two is really more coincidence than anything else. While the numbers are important, this riddle requires no knowledge of math beyond being able to count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 plainglazed Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 summit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 plasmid Posted March 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Not a summit, at least I can't think of a mountain range that this could be referring to. The set of objects this is referring to can be rather variable in its exact size; there might be two in the dark home, nine puffed up with pride, only two working the stone, and even none at all nearest the sky in many cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Possibly.. Flame, fire or candles? 9 candles for hanukkah, two in the sky (sun and moon), flame for blacksmiths (dwarves), one candle for the bedside (in a dark home)... Not sure about the rest of the riddle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 plasmid Posted March 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Possibly.. Flame, fire or candles? 9 candles for hanukkah, two in the sky (sun and moon), flame for blacksmiths (dwarves), one candle for the bedside (in a dark home)... Not sure about the rest of the riddle Sorry I've been away for a bit. I like that answer quite a bit as it could explain at least the two and roughly eight objects in a set, although it’s not what I had in mind. Your line of thinking is on the right track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Wilson Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Hey plasmid. Hope to strike a chord... Amplifier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 plasmid Posted June 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 Hey plasmid. Hope to strike a chord... Amplifier? Back at last, I had nearly forgotten that this one was still out there. I should probably add a bit more to give this some direction... while sticking to Tolkien. A latch that locks without a key So what's inside they will not see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 rsn Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Lego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 a chess player, playing white? Two towers for the elven kings nearest the sky? Four lords (knights and bishops) and eight mortal men (pawns)? One queen to bind the dark lord, and one king to reclaim the throne? I guess it's far-fetched Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 plasmid Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I never cease to be amazed by answers like chess pieces that work rather well despite not being very similar to what I had in mind. I suspect that the difficulty with this riddle has a lot to due with the fact that the numbers of these things can be variable and need not precisely match the numbers given in the riddle. To add a bit more riddling about this thing... Two for the Elven kings nearest the sky Four for the Dwarf lords who work on the stone Eight for Mortal Men puffed up with pride One for the Dark Lord in his dark home In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie One to reclaim the throne, no one will find them You are to bring him, and in the light bind him From the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie A latch that locks without a key So what's inside they will not see A dozen assassins on a white plain First they stab Then they grab Then from motion restrain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 A Clock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 A Clock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 oops double post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 plainglazed Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 yeah, really liked shakingdavid's answer and thought he might have had it. been thinking on this one on and off for weeks... buttons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Yodell Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 how about Soccer/European Football .. the UEFA Champions League : the final phases of the competition where only 16 teams remain : playing 8 games from which you get 8 winners -> playing the quarter finals : 4 games - 4 winners -> playing the semifinals : 2 games - 2 winners -> 1 FINAL GAME for the big Trophy .. 1 WINNER.. that gets it all.. dozen players on a white plain ... for each team : actually it's 11 players per team.. but it could be easily assimilated with 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 EDM Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 that hexaggon game...??? But I think The Silencer may be right...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 plasmid Posted June 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 yeah, really liked shakingdavid's answer and thought he might have had it. been thinking on this one on and off for weeks... buttons? plainglazed gets this toughie A dress shirt with two buttons for the collar up high, four on the cuffs for the hands, and about eight down the middle of the chest. Plus a spare replacement button usually sewn on where the sun doesn’t shine. That’s why I suspected that the potential variability of the numbers could make this one a real bear. Looks like I can't add a "solved" poll because it's been over a month since it was started :·( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Two for the Elven kings nearest the sky
Four for the Dwarf lords who work on the stone
Eight for Mortal Men puffed up with pride
One for the Dark Lord in his dark home
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie
One to reclaim the throne, no one will find them
You are to bring him, and in the light bind him
From the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie
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