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FOTH: Why would dawh out himself to save FIF when no one suspected him? There's another reason... I mean from a Paladin point of view that would be madness. Especially since we've nailed down most others. But why do you think dms is Rogue? (do you think the rogue could have role-discovering abilities?) And even he is, is the Rogue the most dangerous at the minute? Maybe he is, I'm actually not sure, but with reaymond AND Bb there, surely they're better options. I will ask you once again to remove your vote for Frozen. Btw, losing 2 innocents isn't exactly worth it I'm sorry, certainly with Mekal, PG and taliesin out.
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Ok first sorry for not being as active as usual, have been totally exhausted. Last night I fell asleep reading your Night Post unreality - which isn't a reflection of your storytelling, trust me it just shows how tired I was. So we have reaymond down as bad, ST down as bad and and on going thing between dawh/FIF/foolonthehill, Bb down as bad (as I've been saying all along!) and suspicions to do with Kat and Dms. First of all I'm inclined to agree with dawh and FIF on this. dawh's argument is logical, whereas FOTH's argument is solely based on FIF's inactivity and some incitement at the hands of Bb. dawh mentioned how on Day 1 he was suspicious of woon and how he no longer was on day 2. I'd made a note of that myself and is one of the reasons I'm inclined to believe dawh/FIF. Another is that if you're a paladin, the one role you don't claim is a Ying/Yang who everyone guessed to have BTSC. I could bring up alot more points of people wanted... Which leads to me to question fool... why so eager on this? dawh has given more than a reasonable defence in my eyes, and when we have an almost sure baddie in our midst in reaymond you continue to persist with the FIF being a paladin. Now I'm going to leave this line of thought for the time being, and I'm just going to urge people not to vote for FIF. That's actual madness IMO. Bb = mercenary... good to know your role -------------------------- As for my vote I'm going to withold for another short while as I want to hear from Frost again if possible, just to be clear on our plan. If it's certain he's taking reaymond we have more than one other target to try and lynch. Off topic: CP can I just say that I love your avatar , I've been meaning to say since you'd changed it but I really like it! Edit: a few little typos
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Agree that dms should come forward and say all, nows the time if you're innocent. Could the same be said for Frost? Not sure on that one, hopefully there's a role with saving abilities still in our midst who can choose to save Frost... but when we think about it the odds there is are unlikely. Paramedic gone. Messenger (who could save Frost especially), gone. Anyone else? I'm thinking maybe the Ying/Yang combo, they seem like they could be similar to roles in Heroes Mafia, where one can kill OR one can save, each night. If that's the case, Frost should be saved. So Frost if there's anything you think you could/should reveal before tonight please do, but only if it's not too risky.
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Yeah defo, if this election was run here in Ireland I would have been extremely surprised to see McCain get 5% of the vote. It will improve your popularity no end, especially because of Obama's more liberal attitudes. (Although personally I don't believe him to be as liberal as people make out. Liberal compared to recent powerful American politicians yes, but in the grand scheme of things... not so much). Still glad to see he's won
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Hold on, you said you targeted Mekal to watch last night? *Alarm Bells!* Edit: I thought you were saying you targeted PM in your quote there, but I'm just confused, can you clarify?
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Good job guys even though it was obvious we were gonna get PM. Sucks about PG though, didn't see that coming at all... Frost should be protected yeah , and dms as well if we can... Maybe the Cardinal reducing someone's escape chance doesn't necessarily count as a visit? He could be the FA allright, who had investigated PM, but he's certainly not a Paladin, and I can't see an advantage for him as the Rogue to out PM (although we don't know the Rogue's win condition for sure). Going to do some analysis (or try to) and will try and post more things after a while...
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I know you said 1-2 letters outside brackets but I think this could work for #8
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Ha that one made me properly laugh!
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You continue to defy the odds Kat
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Same here. Host: unreality 1) Reaymond - voting for Itachi 2) Kathleen 3) star_tiger 4) Frost - voting for Itachi 5) Brandonb - voting for woon 6) Dawh 7) Joe's Student - voting for Prince_Marth85 8) Foolonthehill - voting for crazypainter 9) Puzzlegirl - voting for Itachi 10) Itachi-san - voting for Prince_Marth85 11) Frozen_in_fire 12) crazypainter - voting for woon 13) Mekal - DEAD [?] Killed by the Paladins 14) dms172 - voting for Prince_Marth85 15) Prince_Marth85 16) woon 17) taliesin - DEAD [Paramedic] Lynched
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Well dms?
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Agreeing with PG here, you really have to provide more. Anything at all even?
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Well if you're gonna die at the hands of Prince if we don't lynch him, maybe you should provide more evidence. If you have good eveidence I'd probably believe you..
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This is why it doesn't add up Bb: Please don't think I'm hounding you, it's not my intention, it's just you've replied to my accusations, and they've lacked substance, and each one makes me more certain about my initial belief.
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Nope I'm not paranoid, that would imply that I think you're against me , more your actions and posts stand out (in my eyes) and alarm bells ring. In spite of this, I don't think we should make a mistake today it's crucial we don't. Therefore I'm going to change to woon, who has a chance of being lynched and is also suspicious. Host: unreality 1) Reaymond - voting for Itachi 2) Kathleen 3) star_tiger 4) Frost - voting for Itachi 5) Brandonb - voting for woon 6) Dawh 7) Joe's Student - voting for woon 8) Foolonthehill 9) Puzzlegirl - voting for Itachi 10) Itachi-san 11) Frozen_in_fire 12) crazypainter - voting for woon 13) Mekal - DEAD [?] Killed by the Paladins 14) dms172 - voting for Prince_Marth85 15) Prince_Marth85 16) woon 17) taliesin - DEAD [Paramedic] Lynched Btw Bb, If you weren't satisfied with his defence yesterday, why did you vote for taliesin? *ring ring*
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Can't answer for Itachi, my reasons were his lack of explanation and his general suspicious-ness. I can't exactly remeber now, I'm going to read over the posts (my own included) to jog my memory. Will be back with more info once I do that.
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Host: unreality 1) Reaymond - voting for Itachi 2) Kathleen 3) star_tiger 4) Frost - voting for Itachi 5) Brandonb 6) Dawh 7) Joe's Student - voting for Brandonb 8) Foolonthehill 9) Puzzlegirl - voting for Itachi 10) Itachi-san 11) Frozen_in_fire 12) crazypainter 13) Mekal - DEAD [?] Killed by the Paladins 14) dms172 15) Prince_Marth85 16) woon 17) taliesin - DEAD [Paramedic] Lynched I think Bb has been suspicious from the off... I've stated reasons previously for this, and will bring them up again if need be. Itachi, in my opinion, should be left alone. I say we leave him now AND I'm sure there's some Jumper role that would have the ability who could confirm his innocence tonight someway. I think that's our best option. We need to get a baddie for definite tonight. woon would even be a safer option, go for that no?
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True but the messenger appeared to know something of Frost and his role in the Post.. As for Itachi... hmm I'm not sure? I wonder will dms keep his assertion that Itachi is bad once he sees how Itachi is targeting people that target him. Anyone able to vouch for Itachi? Would have been interesting to see if PG had held back her vote if she'd seen Itachi's accusations against people that vote for him... I'd still prefer woon or Bb, I think we could do with putting pressure on =The accused= though. And Itachi's "if-you-vote-for-me-you're-bad" is an easy defence... not convincing. Aaah I caan't make up my mind
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Yea I agree either the Paladins have a role identifier and don't know the Crusader OR they don't have a role identifier and all of them have BTSC. My own opinion is that they don't have a role identifier, but more a Faction-identifier, like a Godfather Mafia would have had in previous games. Which would leave that they all know the Reflex's identity... But I don't think the Reflex should come forward yet, as we don't know the Rogue's or FA win condition, and it's too much a risk just yet. As for Mekal, people believed him to be suspicious on Day 1, he placed a retaliatory vote on dms straight after he was voted for. Could he have been the Rogue? It's a long shot in my opinion, I don't really think so, but we shouldn't just accept he's a Jumper. Was thinking about the FA's win condition.. I was thinking it could be something along the lines of arrest x amount of roles, like the Shadow and another Jumper maybe. And also arrest a Paladin to even it up (seeing as they've tole millions from around the world to fund their excursions). Just a thought. As for the vote, woon's an obvious target as is Bb in my opinion. Would have been interesting if the Warrior attacked Bb last night, but a bit too risky. Then again they attacked Frost who now appears to certainly be an innocent... (or FA doing some detective work!). Hmmm some things to ponder ey...
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Ticker Tape at bottom: "Doctors at San Francisco hospital discover man with forks for arms has just b een hiding his hands in his sleeves". love the onion! On Itachi's point: although I'm not an american, and do believe informed voting is definitely a good ideal, making people pass a test to allow them to vote I think is [no offence meant here], a terrible idea. The fact that every adult can vote is essential to a democracy, it's the foundation of it. I see where you're coming from on, but what would happen is in the end up, alot of people would end up not voting. Just because a person doesn't exactly know Nicholas Sarkozy (sp?) is the French leader, and that his views are more right wing and conservative, doesn't mean that person doesn't know what they want in terms of social/health/economical issues. On a practical level it would be nearly impossible to implement and administrate (although I know you acknowledged this). But my belief is strong on that if you think a democratic government is the best way to rule a country (which in certain cases can be a tiny bit doubted in my own socialist opinion ), then every one has the right to vote, and once a person is of a mature age it should definitely be afforded to them. Certainly a test on political affairs would result in maybe a more liberal voting population no? Well here in Ireland it would, and as a liberal I wouldn't mind that , but it's not exactly democratic. If I've missed something fair enough but that was just my initial opinion on your idea...
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Good job people... <_<
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But IF they're like Nija/SWAT roles from previous games, they wouldn't exactly know who they're targeting would they? Edit: Dinner calls, be back after
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Happy Birthday bonanova... your puzzles are without question my favourite here on BD, and hopefully some day I'll be able to solve some
hopefully there's plenty more.