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Direction, misdirection, wifom, discreet, indiscreet. Your pick.

Borrowing format from Mafia Sequence Voting Team 2 name voting (only team 2 players voting, pls): (Name: Jalebi by Anon26) - [PRO 1] Anon26 [CON 0] (Name: A-Team by Araver) - [PRO 1] Araver [CON 0] (Name: the blue pantalones by Akriti) [PRO 1] Akriti [CON 0] Absolute majority means 3 votes. First one to pass wins. Please feel free to add more names I might have lost while proposing this.

Oh, a lot of ideas. Do you really want to discuss it now? Cause the way I'm seeing it. - If Slick flips baddie, then we can talk openly again to get the remaining one. 7 vs 1. - If Slick flips a goodie who doesn't know how to defend or help his teammates before being lynched, and who was framed by the public block ... then, no, talking publicly is not the right thing to do IMHO. We'd have 6 vs 2 where public coordination may just turn into a repeat scenario of last night. Better wait a little longer and see for ourselves.

OOC:

1. Peace - voting for Slick 2. nox - dead; RIDed by Harry N2 and revealed as Basilisk 3. Aaryan - dead; lynched D1 and found to be Hermione 4. Anon26 - killed by Baddies 5. yoDell 6. Thalia - voting for YoDell 7. Chaits - voting for KlueMaster 8. Q-Cumber - lynched D2 and found to be Riddle 9. Slick - voting for KlueMaster 10. Araver - voting for Slick 11. KlueMaster (EDM) - voting for Slick 12. Auramyna - voting for Slick 13. Curr3nt (Segul) Wow, the waters have muddied a lot. Which may reveal targets for Harry and Ron to try the next night. So, let's go with the safe option: a person who has done absolutely nothing to defend himself. While the scenario where he is framed is still in my mind, as Slick is lacking a defense - I mean seriously, any shred of info along with the votes would take about 10-15 seconds to type - I'm willing to go with that. And YoDell has spoken, so I have no other info to ask for today. Hope Harry and Ron get what they need to do.

@Aura - Yeah. Nothing like second-re-guessing self. *shrug* Still, the color he used is tricky. If he meant to vote on YoDell, even to save his skin, without telling anything, this means YoDell may not be the lucky 1/3 unless Thalia can elaborate more on that. Slick can always pull a no-contest to get lynched and thwart any plans of lynching someone else. But we can still get some targets for tonight through talking alone, even if Slick is lynched.

1. Peace - voting for Slick 2. nox - dead; RIDed by Harry N2 and revealed as Basilisk 3. Aaryan - dead; lynched D1 and found to be Hermione 4. Anon26 - killed by Baddies 5. yoDell 6. Thalia - voting for YoDell 7. Chaits 8. Q-Cumber - lynched D2 and found to be Riddle 9. Slick - voting for Slick 10. Araver 11. KlueMaster (EDM) - voting for Slick 12. Auramyna - voting for Slick 13. Curr3nt (Segul) I was gonna follow Thalia's 1/3 vote on YoDell and continue my suggestion for Harry to RID Kill Slick as Ginny ... ... but I got lost (dumbfounded is an understatement) when Slick jumped in and voted for self, though color suggests he copied it from Thalia's vote to YoDell (?). So until Slick's vote is cleared up, I'm not voting for YoDell for pressure. If we wanna go through with the plan of getting a Malfoy today and a Slick Ginny later on ... someone needs to speak up ... YoDell, can you give us a better target or some info?

Team 1: Thalia, Silver Surfer, TheCube, peace Team 2: KlueMaster, Anon26, Akriti, Araver Team 3: Yuli, Izzy, Maurice, Hirkala, Time-zones I can do. I'm usually awake at the wrong hours. Now, what did I sign up to? A-TEAM ...

@curr3nt - agree with what you say, except Harry is not that well hidden, we need Ron to keep stopping the NK. And about this Aura claimed in D2, Aaryan was lynched D1. I think you meant Anon26, in which case, yes, there is little chance the baddies could claim his role - their spy is an action spy not a full role spy. If pushed to claim, they would just claim vanilla with no flavor (and no number).

Signups for Trainer's Manual Mafia IV: Host: Araver Co-host: ... pending ... Newbies 1. Hidden G - after the 14th of june 2. flamebirde - ready to go on the 16th 3. JaneDoe23 4. good22 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. Backups (people that have played before) 1. KlueMaster 2. Anon26 3. Auramyna 4. .. Fixing the signups by re adding those that signed up as backups. This will hopefully be a 10-player Mafia. Anyone who is a newbie to Mafia is encouraged to join and anyone who has played before but still feels he/she wants to play can join as backup first, and will get thrown in after a certain number of newbies (at least 6) join.

Yeah, Peace's claim was validated. As I mentioned, there are several possibilities, mainly because Ginny did not act even though she had an action spy in an odd night. The other baddie could have powerplayed her. 1) Both baddies were inactive. Which will again raise suspicion of EDM (now KlueMaster) as Malfoy. Which Harry should know right now. 2) Ginny was playing dead because of the public plan to block Slick. Which will become obvious once we lynch Slick. 3) Slick is Ginny and this has stopped the NK and her action. I'm very tempted to reserve RID Kill Slick as Ginny for Harry to try and pressure to find a Malfoy today ... Comments?

JK Rowling: Shadow7 Random House: Akriti 1. Peace 2. nox - dead; RIDed by Harry N2 and revealed as Basilisk 3. Aaryan - dead; lynched D1 and found to be Hermione 4. Anon26 - killed by Baddies 5. yoDell 6. Thalia 7. Chaits 8. Q-Cumber - lynched D2 and found to be Riddle 9. Slick 10. Araver - voting for Slick 11. KlueMaster (EDM) 12. Auramyna 13. Curr3nt (Segul) Added the replacements (still leaving the ones replaced cause my mind can't keep track of two replacements at once)

Wow, a double-replacement. This makes the inactive theory more likely. Still, need to hear from Slick first, then from Curr3nt (as Segul was ... hard to talk to).

JK Rowling: Shadow7 Random House: Akriti 1. Peace 2. nox - dead; RIDed by Harry N2 and revealed as Basilisk 3. Aaryan - dead; lynched D1 and found to be Hermione 4. Anon26 - killed by Baddies 5. yoDell 6. Thalia 7. Chaits 8. Q-Cumber - lynched D2 and found to be Riddle 9. Slick 10. Araver - voting for Slick 11. EDM 12. Auramyna 13. Segul Lacking any info and seeing no kill, I gotta go with the blocked one. Baddies could be all inactive (rare) or trying to frame the ones blocked (devious, but still rare). Let's see what Slick says.

@Yodell - I'm not assuming anything good from Colin. But since he acted, Colin can know one or two on that list are vanilla (not Ginny) *shrug* Finding Malfoy out is harder than finding Ginny via block or follow-spy. Hence my requests for RID Kill X as Malfoy. By no means all claims are supposed to be true. I tend to believe most, but that's personal. But all claims (minus Peace's) can't be verified directly since we lost our role spy. The trick is that we have the numbers to act on the others who have not claimed this night, have a lynch, then go for the others that have claimed if night 3 + day 3 is not fruitful. 7 vs 2 would allow us a worst case of 5 vs 2 in night 4 (assuming Harry does not want to RID Kill another goodie) where it's open season for anyone.

Yeah, it looks like a semi-wasted attempt ... but it would give us a clear goodie. Even if inactive for a couple of days, she could be replaced *shrug* The other one I suspect most is the one I assigned to be targeted by Ron: Slick.

What I forgot to write: Number wise it's 7 vs 2 right now. Very good odds of getting the two remaining. Some coordination could help covering the ground quicklier so that we can risk a lynch as early as the next day on someone who is not cleared by either of the 3 action goodies.

My question was more convoluted than that, but regardless of the answer, we don't get much information as there were a lot of votes on Q. Baddies can power play any action inside their BTSC, but (usually) can't powerplay game thread actions such as day votes. Given how the ability is stated, yes, Q did not vote hence no extra vote even if Ginny was somewhere in the bandwagon against Q. In other line of thinking, partially answering to Chaits. Right now there are 2 Baddies remaining: one action spy odd nights (Ginny), one vanilla. We may have all of Colin, Ron and Harry alive (Ron is the only one not confirmed alive). There are a couple of people who have not publicly claimed anything. So, it makes sense to coordinate actions somehow using one follow spy (Colin) + one RID Kill (Harry) + one block (Ron) to target different suspects. What is known (I'm only adding public info atm): Goodies with a public claim or info from night-post deductions: 1. PEACE - claims Ron 7. Chaits - claims Stone 2 10. Araver - claims Stone 4 11. EDM - Either a goodie or Malfoy, because of N1 post 12. Auramyna - claims Dumbledore Not claimed / not cleared 5. yoDell 6. Thalia 9. Slick 13. Segul Dead Baddies 2. nox - Basilisk 8. Q-Cumber - Riddle Dead Goodies: 3. Aaryan - Hermione 4. Anon26 - Unknown: Ron, Dumbledore, Vanilla Stone So, from my POV (since I don't know what Colin may know from his N1 / N2 actions): @Harry - Try to RID Kill EDM as Malfoy, so we can clear her completely. @Ron - Block Slick if claim was true. Otherwise block Peace to counterclaim her claim (and we'll lynch her) @Colin - Follow any of Thalia, yoDell and Segul, based on whatever info you already have in N1/N2. If anyone sees improvements to the above, please say so.

Nevermind, ignore previous post. My question revolved around Ginny not Riddle, but there's no way that can be considered an info in the day post.

That was a lucky gamble. But being in a Harry Potter Mafia in the faction which is against Harry Potter is ... kinda suicidal @Slick - *cough* You just changed from Q to Chaits saying "I'll bet the baddies want to kill Q which may not be good for us.". After Chaits posted something of significance. So, no, I don't think you knew what you were doing when you voted for Q in the first place. @Shadow - Was this a hint that Riddle's (double) vote was in place:

Not inelegant. It is useful with moderation. But yes, we can stop here for today. It is not for us to deduce, but for the goodies with actual actions. Still don't feel good about Q (mostly metagaming, I'm used to lynching him).

NK Rowling: Shadow7 Random House: Akriti 1. Peace - voting for Q-Cumber 5. yoDell - voting for Q-Cumber 6. Thalia - voting for Peace 7. Chaits - voting for Q-Cumber 8. Q-Cumber 9. Slick - voting for Q-Cumber 10. Araver 11. EDM 12. Auramyna - voting for Q-Cumber 13. Segul 2. nox - dead; RIDed by Harry N2 and revealed as Basilisk 3. Aaryan - dead; lynched D1 and found to be Hermione 4. Anon26 - killed by Baddies Removing mine and adding Chaits.

Sadly, I don't have a bad idea even if I'm twice as big a stone. Will remove my vote for now. Problem is, we got 3 inactives: Q, EDM, Segul. And the voting started on Q for no apparent reason.

Hmm, it is defending, since the conclusions (what you call "just my thoughts") were that nox wasn't spied by Aaryan or was spied as a goodie. Once Nox was revealed as Basilisk ... your post became suspicious of a defense of nox. Now, shall we hear more from Chaits?

NK Rowling: Shadow7 Random House: Akriti 1. Peace 5. yoDell - voting for Q-Cumber 6. Thalia - voting for Peace 7. Chaits - voting for Peace 8. Q-Cumber 9. Slick - voting for Q-Cumber 10. Araver - voting for Chaits 11. EDM 12. Auramyna - voting for Q-Cumber 13. Segul 2. nox - dead; RIDed by Harry N2 and revealed as Basilisk 3. Aaryan - dead; lynched D1 and found to be Hermione 4. Anon26 - killed by Baddies Following Peace's claim, which I'm inclined to believe till the next day or a counter-claim (even a subtle one like the real Ron could just block Peace to let us know he's still alive).