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Yup. But that is just a top-down breakdown of the cases based on rules existing in the OP here: - the rule that says "For same type actions: Indy >> Baddie > Goodie" (i.e. Taz's redirects happen first, then baddies / goodies), - standard redirect rules when Order of actions is used (redirects only work on players with an action which voluntarily choose to act) - other restrictions in role descriptions (such as Foghorn Leghorn and Barnyard Dawg unable to redirect each other). Warning: a lot can happen with 7 possible redirects which are not shown in the night-post. Dissecting all the cases will most likely not be possible, nor will we (hosts) answer in any way to direct questions about which redirects could have happened.

Short recap - difference between >> and > with same examples: * Trap >> Kill means the Trap occurs first (chronologically). ONLY after the trap occurs, if the killer is still able to move, he may strike his target. * RID Kill > Kill means both actions happen roughly at the same time. If the RID Killer targets the killer with a correct RID, he will stop the killer from acting. However, if the RID Killer is "looking away" / not targeting the killer, the killer is able to kill the RID Killer. Otherwise, if they don't target/prevent each other or overlap in any way, then these are two parallel actions happening at the same time in different parts of the universe, no interference. More info: OOA

Lead Writer: curr3nt Lead Animator: araver 1. Aaryan 2. Hirkala 3. Molly Mae 4. Anon26 5. KlueMaster 6. Peace*out 7. Aura 8. flamebirde 9. Medji A. Akriti B. Thalia C. TheCube D. YoDell E. Hidden G F. maurice G. pizzaboy Back-ups 1. 2. 3. Hello, pizzaboy! Nox told me about you. Glad to have you in for a Mafia game Leaving some spots for backups. Please do signup if you missed the initial roster, we're always glad to have backups. Game thread will go up when curr3nt comes in.

Yes, sure The same conversation in which you receive your role in can be used for private Q & A Also, please read some of the answers along this thread till the game starts, and we'll make sure to include all the already public Q&A information in (or after) the OP in the game thread. EDIT: Clarified public / private Questions & Answers.

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Great, that's just great Now lemme find the Lead Writer and tell him we'll be soon be in business.

@Medji - Great to see you in a Mafia again! I've read Wheel of Time a couple of times - Great Design & Game! @all - Seeing as most players are still active on BrainDen, we won't be going through a round of confirmations for this one. So, we'll get the show going as soon as the last 3 spots fill Thank you. @Thalia - it's been a while ... have you cleared up more time for this one?

Thank you YoDell, we're glad you liked it Congratulations to all (active) players And congratulations to Aaryan, for his first time hosting, which he pulled through with honors, despite running a fever during this Despite what the end-roster looks like, this was (or at least as I felt it) a much closer battle between Goodies and Baddies, with a very good amount of activity on both sides (with a plus for the winning side, random org selected a very active Baddie BTSC ). A few minor loose ends in the beginning have added this TMM to same streak of Baddie-won Mafia (as the predecessors, TMM I, II and III). I certainly saw some very nice plays at Mafia from all of you, first-timers or not So, I hope to see you all play in other games here (and elsewhere)

Day 3: “Raising Hope” City 17, forgotten district, known as "The Neighborhood" ~~~~~ The events of the last night coupled with the warm fuzzy effect of a mid-summer day had almost washed away the grayness. A chilling adrenaline rush had brought them in the street, minds alike set on a goal. For the first time, coffee came second. Rumor had it that the "Doctor" was back in town. And it was indeed a wonderful feeling to know one can depend on others late at night, when nightmares haunt the neighborhood. One little show was all it took to spark up that energy. They never quite thought they had it in them all along. The energy to share a mutual feeling of safety and protection. The energy to resist despair and bend the odds. To secure a future of their own. Perhaps all it took was one single leap of faith. Or perhaps all it took was to lose all hope first. The odds were stacked against them now, as they acknowledged bitterly. Opportunities had been lost before bridges were built. The price of suspicion and raised eyebrows. No more. There was a glimpse of a plan, an enticement of better days. It could be theirs for the taking. Signals were dropped, handshakes followed. Out in the open, there was a battle of both wits and determination. Steel-cold determination may still succeed where all else failed. Yet, the sun shines for all. Scurrying out from the cloak of shadows, the masters of the night arose to claim the day. For they had paid the price for that day. Among the few remaining, their mind was one, their will not scattered. Shifty eyes had searched around, quick smiles had been thrown behind their cups of coffee as exhaustion took its toll. Planting their weakness in plain sight had paid off. Who would have thought that muscles were easier to hide than brains? No outside intervention was possible today. The pieces had been set in play, their motion pushed them in a single direction. Some had found and claimed the Hidden Prize. No matter how hard she tried, YoDell was defeated by sleight of hand tricks and impossible to refuse bribes. The tribute was paid that day. ~~~~~ ... City 17, twice-forgotten district, once known as "the Neighboorhood".

Hosts: Aaryan and Araver 1. Hidden G - voting for Auramyna 2. flamebirde 3. EDM 4. good22- lynched and found to be The Shopowner 5. TheCube - killed by Baddies 6. Petrus - lynched and found to be The Bartender 7. YoDell 8. Anon26 9. Auramyna 10. RainThinker- killed by Baddies Fixing colors.

YoDell is replacing KlueMaster per Night 3 ends at 6 PM EDT on Thursday, June 23rd. (3PM PDT, 3AM PKT). Hosts: Aaryan and Araver 1. Hidden G 2. flamebirde 3. EDM 4. good22- lynched and found to be The Shopowner 5. TheCube - killed by Baddies 6. Petrus - lynched and found to be The Bartender 7. YoDell KlueMaster 8. Anon26 9. Auramyna 10. RainThinker- killed by Baddies

The Game is not over. This game was balanced. I can not make comments other comments on balance until the game is over.

OOC: Will do once this is over. We go back to the Newbie Signups thread and open a new signing up phase. (that thread is supposed to be used continuously for new Training Mafias). Now, for the rest of the game, we can talk in the Ghost BTSC that you currently have access to (where there's no need to post in gray )

Sooner than Looney, no. Looney is next one up. After, most probably Aaryan's and Shadow's Harry Potter III follow-up. In between or whenever it fills up, there should be another Training Manual Mafia V.

@Hidden G: Ghosts are dead. No longer able interfere with the game. Not in the game thread, not using PMs, not in real life. No way. They are (usually, out of courtesy) allowed to post 1 more post in Gray. There is no ghost posting with on-game topic. TheCube was warned immediately after dying to not to give on-topic information in his (1 and only) ghost post he was allowed to. All of the above are mentioned in the If I were you, I would not look into that ghost post since it does not carry in-game/on-topic information. You are free to try to talk to TheCube all you want, as long as TheCube does not respond nor in any other way influence the game. @Aura: I believe HiddenG did not read the rules about ghost posting so he did not know. But he cannot *actually* break the rules as invoking a dead player does not work / have any effect. @All: Sorry for not responding sooner. The fact that the first two ghosts were either silent or already conformed to the rules, blind-sided me for a second there about the need to re-warn about the rules on ghost posting. Ghost posting is covered , chapter III (e) entitled "Death"

Well, it's in red, so I assume you'd like the host to answer: 1) EDM was the target of the Doctor's save action. That is what is mentioned in the night-post. There is no mention nor hint about anyone's role. 2) The Doctor has no ability that allows vote manipulation. PS: EDM is a she

Night Two: The Riddle Continues” City 17, forgotten district, known as “The Neighborhood” ~~~~~ The “Doctor” decided to take another route tonight, away from the scene of the previous day mob lynch. His new route was a strain for his already tired muscles, but he carried on. One block away from his apartment he noticed a young woman coughing heavily while trying to open the door. He could see she was trembling. He approached her slowly, calling out so as not to startle her: “Miss! Do you need help? I’m a doctor!”. EDM looked frightened and doubled her efforts to open the lock, but her hand was shaking so badly. The keys fell to the floor. The “Doctor” went up the stairs, still talking in a calm voice “Miss, you should get that coughing checked. It may be just a simple allergy that any decent hospital can treat. But left untreated, this would get worse soon.” As he arrived next to the door, she finally collapsed crying, still coughing. He called an ambulance to check her in the hospital for the night. ~~~~~ Tonight, the Loan Shark had it all set. He was going to take over the city, by hook or by crook. His latest meeting with the Dealer had gone well. They had figured out who stood in the way of their expansion, and how that problem could be solved. “Muscles” had two jobs to do that night. ~~~~~ TheCube was unlucky. He never even knew what hit him. The last thing he ever saw was a metal bar in front of his face as he was walking home that night. His body was not discovered till morning, when the garbage truck went in that dark alley. ~~~~~ EDM was trying to get out of there when she saw a movement on the hallway to the left. She started to turn around but something fast bruised past her shoulder and went on for her head. The IV metal support she was carrying around had lessened the blow. She collapsed and the sound of the metal IV support hitting the floor alerted the nurse at the end of the hallway. As “Muscles” retreated through the stairs, EDM was carried back to her bed. She awoke the next day with no coughing, a bad headache and no recollection of what happened to her. ~~~~~ Day 2 ends at 6 PM EDT on Wednesday, June 22nd. (3PM PDT, 3AM Thursday PKT). Hosts: Aaryan and Araver 1. Hidden G 2. flamebirde 3. EDM 4. good22- lynched and found to be The Shopowner 5. TheCube - killed by Baddies 6. Petrus 7. KlueMaster 8. Anon26 9. Auramyna 10. RainThinker- killed by Baddies

Yes, in case of a tie, all player names in the tie are mentioned in the day post. No, there was no tie.

Day 1: “Trouble in Paradise” City 17, forgotten district, known as "The Neighborhood" ~~~~~ The citizens of the Neighborhood went along with their business. Some stopped on their way to work to see the long yellow ribbon that surrounded a chalk figure on the sidewalk. Some needed to cross the street to avoid that area. Conversation ensued naturally. People stopped to drink their coffee on the other side of the street. There were voices that claimed the Police really did not care anymore about protecting their neighborhood as they should. After all, all they did was pick up the body, lay some yellow ribbon and disappear. Some remembered there were better times, when no one dared commit a robbery, let alone a murder in that neighborhood. There were times when one could safely let a 5-year old run free till dark without having to worry about anything. Not so long ago. And while some still found it confusing or just plain wrong, more voices called for the Civil Guard to intervene. A crowd formed, right there in the street. Shady characters were stopped and pushed around. No one had a clear idea of what was happening anymore, but each had the urge to do something about it. Anything. As the day came to an end, their focus turned on good22 who was unable to come up with a defense, nor with another suspect to divert their attention. Ancient saying says that when in Rome, one should do as the Romans do. Or face the consequences. Typical wrong place at the wrong time for poor good22 . A momentary loss of balance and he fell down. Then one muffled voice cried “Knife!” and they were all over him. The ambulance came too late, as usual. And the police found no one left around to question. The shop was obviously closed for the next days. ~~~~~ Night 2 ends at 6 PM EDT on Thursday, June 20th. (3PM PDT, 3AM PKT). Hosts: Aaryan and Araver 1. Hidden G 2. flamebirde 3. EDM 4. good22- lynched and found to be The Shopowner 5. TheCube 6. Petrus 7. KlueMaster 8. Anon26 9. Auramyna 10. RainThinker- killed by Baddies

Hosts: Aaryan and Araver 1. Hidden G - voting for good22 2. flamebirde - voting for EDM 3. EDM - voting for Petrus 4. good22 5. TheCube - voting for flamebirde 6. Petrus - voting for good22 7. KlueMaster - voting for good22 8. Anon26 - voting for EDM 9. Auramyna - voting for EDM 10. RainThinker- killed by the Baddies Adding last vote. Post will be up shortly.

No, days in Mafia never end early, unless one person who has the most votes on him decides to say "no contest, lynch me". Also, after Day 1, comes Night 2, then Day 2.

Day 1 ends at 6 PM EDT on Monday That's 3PM PDT (Pacific Daylight) on Monday. That's 3AM PKT - Pakistan Daylight Time on Tuesday. Any more conversions, let me know EDIT: added the day of the week.

I cannot confirm nor deny that. Nor should it be a part of your game play. It's called metagaming When it's unavoidable, it's unavoidable. But in this case, it's perfectly avoidable.

Yes, that was a spy action occurring.