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Btw, that's not a "sane" option Actually, it only makes sense if you're Sane.- If you're Hypo, screaming to be released is detrimental to your wincon. Going to the Mafia side makes ... even less sense after already lynching a Baddie. - If you're a Patient, screaming to be released then going to mafia side may lynch a Sane. Worst case scenario, lynching the one doing the releasing (or his/her replacement if plasmid was the original Sane doing the release), in which case, you get trapped in the game. - If you're a Killer and helped lynched the other killer D1, what's the point of returning to your side? On a related note (don't get angry, it's just a logical argument): The logical thing for the sane to do (in case there is no obvious baddie) is stick to lynching someone who is clearly not Hypo. That's a no-lose/no-lose scenario. Screaming for release & lynching baddies makes you a perfect candidate for such a "mislynch".
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This line is why I think I was blocked. Also, my action didn't go through? I read the word after you mentioned it. Didn't see it on the phone though.Also, just trying to be sure you had an action to begin with, without actually placing a vote on you to get you to speak. So ... thank you
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Couple questions: 1. Does the NP for N2 show a block on Flame? 2. Does the NP for N2 show a kill or a save? 3. Would the NP show an attempted kill stopped by the save? 4. How does the Compulsive Liar change the NP - can he add / delete directly from the NP or can he instruct the host e.g. "Do not show actions on Player X (or Role Y)" or "show actions targeting X as targeting Y"? 5. Can the Hypo copy the Compulsive Liar's ability to manipulate the NP/DP? 6. Are redirects shown in the NP? 7. The Paranoiac being killed and surviving is shown in the NP? 8. Can the Hypo copy Paranoiac's ability to survive the first NK attempt / lynch?
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Host: Asylum Warden: Kikacat123 Co-host: Deputy Warden: nana77 1. FreeOwn 2. Flamebirde - voting for Phil 4. araver - voting for onetruth 5. Marksmanjay 6. phil1882 7. onetruth - voting for Phil 9. Auramyna -trapped in vent for N2, D2- 10. Barcallica - voting for onetruth 11. mtamburini DEAD: 3. plasmid - DEAD - poisoned by Killers 8. Boquise - DEAD - executed as Homicidal Maniac I'm gonna follow Barc's vote for now. OT you have better speeches than that. Say a little about yourself. Your self in this game. @Flame - I don't particularly like that you knew off the bat that you got blocked. I read the NP three times to figure out if it shows a kill and a save. Or a lie from the Compulsive Liar. @Aura - thanks for blowing my theory that you self-trapped using meta-posts
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Dr. Fate: Y-san Roster: 1) Phil1882 2) Nana77 3) 4) 5) 6) 7) 8) 9) 10) 11) 12) Kikacat123 13) Araver27182818284 14) 15) Back-ups: 1) 2) Just adding the numbers up (side down with an exclamation point).
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@Kika - OneTruth and Aura are.
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D1 -- Flame and OT voting for mtam -- Boq and Barc voting for Freeown -- mtam and araver voting for Boq -- phil voting for marksmanjay Boq gets lynched in what appears to be a tie from the DP. Hmm. 1) Does the day-post show a tie between mtamburini, Freeown and Boquise or was that just for story-purposes / flavor? 2) Can the x3 vote be used as x2 or x1 or x0? @mtam - indeed, we are both almost 99% cleared of being a killer because of the vote. Not of being a Hypo though. Though that should not matter for the Sane since they're bound to use release on anyone that does not look as a likely Killer. However, release is a day action as stated in the signup thread (and carried over by plasmid on the first page here). I think it's up to whoever of us survives the night. @Barca - you made it a 3-way tie instead of saving Boq by bandwagonning someone else. That is interesting and certainly makes you a less likely candidate for being a Killer. Why you think you need to be released beats me though. Aren't we all (except the Hypo) wanting to be released for our wincon to be fulfilled? If so, why you first? Not voting: Freeown, Marksmanjay, Aura. I'd figure more likely one of them is the remaining killer. Which incidentally protects the other two from the NK.
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Host: Asylum Warden: Kikacat123 Co-host: Deputy Warden: nana77 1. FreeOwn 2. Flamebirde - voting for mtamburini 3. plasmid -DEAD- poisoned by Killers 4. araver - voting for Boquise 5. Marksmanjay 6. phil1882 - voting for marksmanjay 7. onetruth voting for mtamburini 8. Boquise - voting for FreeOwn 9. Auramyna 10. Barcallica 11. mtamburini - voting for Boquise Changing my vote for now. Wish Aura were here to say something though. Nevermind, I can wait for a while. So Boq - here comes the question - what have you done last night? 'Cause the questions you're putting are not smelling right. Or at least you don't smell Hypo to me, which is the only thing that made sense for those questions to be asked after N1 in public.
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Dr. Fate: Y-san Roster: 1) 2) 3) 4) 5) 6) 7) 8) 9) 10) 11) 12) Kikacat123 13) Araver 14) 15) Back-ups: 1) 2) I will probably get to read this till then but I am not missing it for the world.
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Host: Asylum Warden: Kikacat123 Co-host: Deputy Warden: nana77 1. FreeOwn 2. Flamebirde - voting for mtamburini 3. plasmid -DEAD- poisoned by Killers 4. araver - voting for Auramyna 5. Marksmanjay 6. phil1882 - voting for marksmanjay 7. onetruth voting for mtamburini 8. Boquise - voting for FreeOwn 9. Auramyna 10. Barcallica 11. mtamburini Voting to pressure my quiet friend on the other side of the world. Wakey wakey :wave:
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I think it's the Follow this topic button on top of the topics. Not sure since I've been away from BD for a while now.
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Let me get this straight: 1) if D1 and D2 baddies are lynched and Hypo is released, does game stop with Sane winning and all remaining goodies losing since they were not released? Just an example, basicaly when game stops with Sane win, do remaming patients win or lose? 2) if a goodie/patient dies before a sane releases him, does he still lose even if baddies are killed in the end? 3) What happens with votes on a player that is released e.g. five minutes before the day ends? You mention the player release still has a chance to vote before leaving. 4) the hypo and sane cannot tie win right? (since one must stay and the others must make him leave) 5) if hypo dies or is lynched, what incentive do the Sane have since they already lost? Shouldn't they have an alternate wincon? (e.g release X sane. Since any other type of wincon does not make them try to release anyone, hnce Goodies are stuck with no wincon either)
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Host (Asylum warden): Kikacat123 Roster: 1. bonanova 2. Flamebirde 3. plasmid 4. araver 5. Marksmanjay 6. phil1882 7. onetruth 8. 9. Auramyna 10. 77. Nana77 Backups: 1. akaslickster 2. Adding full name for easy PMs. Just 2 more ...
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Roster: Host (Asylum warden): Kikacat123 1. bonanova 2. Flamebirde 3. plasmid 4. araver 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. Backups: 1. 2.
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3 years and counting ... definitely did not expect that. Well, let's spice it up with some colors. 1. Flamebirde - 2014 2. MikeD - 2013 3. DyalDragon - 2012 4. Kikacat123 - 2013 5. Marksmanjay - 2013 6. 7. Barcallica - 2013 8. Brainiac100 - 2012 9. The Cube - 2013 10. araver - 2014 11. 12. dee_tot - 2013 13. TwoaDay - 2012 14. 15. Magic - 2014 16. Hirkala - 2012 17. Panther - 2014 18. Bmad - 2013 19. mboon - 2012
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Late posting but not necromancing since it's been less than one month Thank you Y-san for a very nice adventure. Looking forward to the upcoming JL installments. @GM - C'est la vie. @Bonanova - you did scare me with the APR. I was almost convinced during D1 that you cast it on self to mislead, but after I saw it on me, I severely (yet only virtually) banged my head. I would have cast it on Flame in N3 to force his hand. Between AQ and Nefer, Nefer could have won easier, that's what I said in one of the posts. So there would have been incentive from AQ to help you lynch him instead of being forced in a tie.
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You can't know. The others can reason it though. Who would gamble (with a save in hand while someone has a kill) to NOT save self? And if inclined to gamble, what are the chances to pick ANOTHER player out of 4 options, the exact one targeted for the kill? Btw, maybe it was too subtle, but by declaring myself enemy of you during the night I was trying to protect us both from the kill on the chance the AQ left us to quarrel for the next lynch. Whilst I investigated you. Which I did. And came back to vote with a certainty this time Here's my proposal: If you publicly claim AQ, we can turn the lynch to your target the night before (Phil). This way, you don't die today, Nefer does not pass GO and doesn't get a RID kill. You do understand that even if I'm lynched, once it's obvious I was telling the truth, no matter what the AQ does, Nefer will save self the next night and join the remaining goodies in voting you off tomorrow. You cannot win.
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Underlining your motives to side with me during this day when a mislynch can be avoided (as it's still 3 vs 1 vs 1):- Gon has good chances to have my claim validated at the end of the Day. Why lynch me? - Knuckle already knows that I will have APR +2 at the end of D2 b/c 1 cycle passed (N2+D2) + I voted willingly. So I will be dead at the end of D3 anyway when I get APR +1 again. That is if I don't act N3 (and I won't since I have nothing else to find). Why lynch me? To make it clear I'm gonna re-ask the host so that there's no misunderstanding: 1. Since I was APR-ed N2 and voted D2, will I get APR +2 at the end of D2? 2. If I act during N3 will I get APR +1=3, hence die at the end of N3? 3. If I don't act during N3 and even if I don't vote during D3, will I get APR +1=3, hence die at the end of D3?
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Are you saying plas could have killed Nana? Yes, Plas/Phil could have. But that was not my point. Leaving meta-gaming aside (there's a "last seen" box that shows when one has been on last time), it is conceivable that Phil acted N1 and even N2 either himself or his mentor in his place. N2 from what you all can see: AQ targeted Phil. Nefer/Killua saved Phil. Knuckle gave me APR. Since Killua is dead it's pretty obvious who saved Phil. And what motivation would anyone but Phil have to save Phil? From my PoV and what I said in a post above: Gon acted N2. Palm acted N2. So 5 out of 5 were active. Which includes Phil. Again, my vote is on Flame b/c he targeted Phil N2. Either Phil saved himself (in which case he is Nefer and Flame is AQ) or not (in which case Flame is either Nefer or AQ). Either way, Flame needs to go. I need both Gon and Knuckle on board for this lynch.
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Oh, and Phil not speaking and having plasmid as a mentor does not preclude him from being AQ or Nefer. Or anyone else. Either his mentor can power play him or he just chose not to post.
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1) Phil1882 2) Framm18 - DEAD [Killua] lynched 3) Flamebirde - voting for araver 4) bonanova- voting for araver 5) GMaster479 - voting for araver 6) Araver {APR 1} - voting for Flame 7) Nana77 - DEAD [?] killed by Ant Queen Voting for Flame because the result of my action N2 - Flame targeted Phil. And the result of my N1 action, which I've told you before in a convoluted way, is Nana targeted GM and that was visible in the night post. And I CCed Flame when he started claiming side-ways. Incrementing my APR because I don't really care about dying, my vote is needed today. Thanks Knuckle. Now since you know I will eventually die, care to join the lynch? Killua is dead, Gon is not. Scissors. If I fail it will show you my above claim is true. If we don't get either AQ or Nefer in this lynch, I fear there's no way to turn this around.
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@Nefer - I have an inkling you'll be using Nana's action tonight. If so, please target the Ant Queen so that we get a good lynch tomorrow. Saving yourself may protect you during the night, but not ensure you win the next day's lynch @Knuckle - get your act together pls. Killing a goodie at this point is a fatal blow to the faction.
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D1 the one where everyone was conveniently late. Even the lynched one. Oh, how I wish for the ability to end the day at will. @Flame - I still don't get it and still don't trust you. I'm super glad GM does because I don't trust him either. I said what I said and I meant what I meant. You cannot claim to be neither me nor she. True, with a mislynch and an APR-trigger happy we might not even get to D3.