plasmid

Making the robots "short-circuit", as they say in Perl:

If it's just Nana and me left going into a day phase, then she will almost certainly have invoked the Ares vote manip on the preceding night to force a tie. If it's just Nana and me left going into a night phase, then she would be able to save herself and pulverize me. If you and/or Phil are around during a lynch vote, you might have the option of meddling with it depending on the previous night actions.

Would it work if the second question were instead: "Will you answer this question with a 'Yes'?"

I thought the game would be over at this point, but Y-san said it's still going. So I'll keep playing and see how it ends up. You're right, though. If the goodies find themselves entering a day phase against either Nana or me, then they would end up losing because we each have a vote manip. It would just be a question of who they would rather see win at this point, if they still have any power to change the outcome of the game.

Who we have left in the game is: Bonanova - Batman Phil - Superman Nana - Amazo Plasmid - Ares Nana can guarantee a win at this point if she kills me. She's obviously has the Ares vote manip since she's been using it in the past few lynches, so if she's up against just Phil and Bonanova during the lynch tomorrow, then she can vote for Phil and redirect Phil's vote to Phil to get him lynched, and then kill Bonanova the next night. Like it or not, even though I'm a baddie, you (goodies) will lose the game if I'm not alive to manip the vote and lynch Nana tomorrow.

The first save or two was probably from shenanigans to make it look like you get saved to clear yourself. For the entire game, the ONLY defense you've been giving and relying completely upon is those NKs early in the game, even when everything else that's been going on makes it completely impossible that you're telling the truth. Phil and Bonanova are not both baddies. Onetruth was Faust.

Doctor Fate: Y-san Roster: 1) Phil1882 2) Nana77 - voting for Barc 3) bonanova 8) plasmid - voting for Nana 12) Barca 4) tolecnal - DEAD [Martian Manhunter] lynched 5) flamebirde - DEAD [Hawkgirl] killed by Supervillains 6) onetruth - DEAD [?] killed by Supervillains 7) dee_tot - DEAD [?] killed by Supervillains 9) TwoaDay - DEAD [Zatanna] lynched 10) Kikacat123 - DEAD [?] killed by Amazo 11) Araver - DEAD [Black Canary] lynched At least you're finally admitting that Amazo is in the game. Suppose that Barc, Kikacat, or I were baddies. The visible votes yesterday, before vote manipulation, were 3 votes on Nana and 3 votes on plasmid. One of us would have obviously redirected your vote onto yourself. The only way you could have survived is if either Bonanova or Phil were Amazo and decided to redirect a vote toward me. But they (and I) know that they aren't Amazo, so that's not what happened. Alternatively, you could survive if you were a baddie with Ares' vote redirection and redirected a vote away from yourself. And the reason the baddies targeted you for the kill last night is because I redirected the NK. Nana needs to go.

My last solution will work no matter how Random behaves as long as the other robots can't predict what he'll do.

Edit: But I believe that last solution would work no matter how Random behaves.

1) Phil1882 -plasmid 2) Nana77 -plasmid 3) bonanova 4) tolecnal - DEAD [Martian Manhunter] lynched 5) flamebirde - DEAD [Hawkgirl] killed by Supervillains 6) onetruth - DEAD [?] killed by Supervillains 7) dee_tot - DEAD [?] killed by Supervillains 8) plasmid - voting for Nana 9) TwoaDay - DEAD [Zatanna] lynched 10) Kikacat123 - voting for Nana 11) Araver - DEAD [Black Canary] lynched 12) Barca Funny how that claim doesn't explain how you could possibly have info saying that the baddie lynch save was used yesterday.

On second thought, I suppose there's a slim chance that Nana got worried that one of the goodies might switch to vote her at the last minute while I maniped her vote back to herself. She might have used the baddie lynch save on herself as insurance. But that doesn't change the fact that you just claimed to have information that you wouldn't have if you were really a goodie.

1. A baddie lynch save was not just used because it was not needed. (Unless the baddies are feeling super generous.) 2. If you're a goodie, you would have no way of knowing whether a baddie lynch save was just used. Unless you want to claim Wonder Woman and that you asked a question during the night phase about a previous day action and got the result back before night phase was over (and counterclaim Nana, which you should have done during the voting yesterday if you were Wonder Woman). There's two of your baddies.

Dee seemed to think you're baddie. If Dee were Amazo, why bother to point out that Wonder Woman isn't in the game? If you were Wonder Woman, where are the yes/no question/answer results? Why do you claim that I used a baddie lynch save instead of Turbo Mode to save myself... a baddie wouldn't have to use a lynch save if they're down by two votes and the only ones with a vote manip, but Amazo would have to use Turbo Mode if he were down by two votes and knew the baddies had a manip? And maybe most importantly, if I were baddie, why would I even bother to try to convince people to lynch you if I can just tell the two other baddies to lynch you and make an Ares manip guarantee the lynch (which didn't happen)? That gets to my whole point of it being illogical to even bother voting to lynch me if you were telling the truth.

Funny how you only think like a goodie when I remind you what a goodie should be thinking. And still haven't explained why Dee being Amazo would want to out the fact that Wonder Woman isn't in the game. And still haven't given your yes/no results. Wonder Woman isn't in the game. I lied D4 because that's what an indy's got to do to save his skin, but now that it's 3 vs 3 vs 1 I have no choice but to side with the goodies. You're lying because you're a baddie.

Why aren't you saying that I'm a baddie who just used an Ares vote manip to save myself? That's what you should be saying if your story held any water.

No, I'm Amazo because you're not Wonder Woman, just like Dee said.

I really would have preferred it if you hadn't forced me to use up Turbo Mode just now.

I don't want to become dispensable. The goodies wincon still involves killing me at some point, they just can't afford to do it right now. You still have yet to say any of your yes/no results, "Wonder Woman".

If Phil is goodie, you're goodie, and Amazo was Dee and is dead, how do you propose to lynch a baddie when there are 3 baddies + Ares manip vs 4 goodies? Your argument makes no sense if you're a goodie. It only makes sense if you're a baddie who doesn't want to get lynched by an Amazo manip. And while you're at it, you can also explain why Dee would bother to out the fact that Wonder Woman isn't in the game if she were Amazo.

This is getting ridiculous. If anyone can explain a logical reason to lynch me considering the above, go ahead and explain.

I copied Ares and wanted to have a little insurance.

Let's go through the possibilities. 1) Nana is lying and plas is telling the truth. It's 3 baddies + Ares manip vs 3 goodies and 1 indy with Ares manip. 2) Nana is telling the truth and plas is lying. It's 3 baddies + Ares manip vs 4 goodies. If 1 is true, then outcomes are 1a) Vote to lynch plasmid. Plasmid dies and you have 3 baddies vs 3 goodies, and you're toast. 1b) Vote to lynch Nana. Nana gets lynched and you have a chance. If 2 is true, then outcomes are 2a&b) Baddies manip the lynch to do whatever they want and it doesn't matter how you vote.

Here's one final fact to contend with. If Nana's telling the truth and Dee was Amazo, there are 3 baddies vs 4 goodies plus an Ares vote manip. So the goodies are doomed regardless of the vote. If I'm telling the truth, I can manip the vote to make it possible to lynch Nana. You have nothing to lose by trusting me on this one -- if Nana's telling the truth you're toast no matter what.

If you don't believe me, you'll have to convince yourself that Nana is Wonder Woman and that Dee was lying when she claimed Green Arrow. Dee left tons of hints. Nana hasn't said a peep about what she learned as Wonder Woman even after she outed. And she's clever enough that she should definitely have been figured out useful information with yes/no questions long before now.