[plainglazed]

Could be the perfect storm

But no, not either or.

And for not telling the truth

I've plead the fifth before.

'Cause in your local armory

You might swap me in kind,

For this life line's no aid;

Is another way to find.

A forceful piece that's constant

Carved a slice of special cake.

Put it all together and

Some sense of this you'll make.

[Guest]

A butter knife.

Could be the perfect storm

But no, not either or.

And for not telling the truth

I've plead the fifth before.

'Cause in your local armory

You might swap me in kind,

For this life line's no aid;

Is another way to find.

A forceful piece that's constant

Carved a slice of special cake.

Put it all together and

Some sense of this you'll make.

[plainglazed]

A butter knife.

Yay, thanks for kicking this one off, Lotus. Alas, no, not one of those.

[Guest]

uhh are those all parts of a word?? in dat case would the two lines of each doublet have to convey the same idea?? as in 2 different descriptions of d same part of d word?? a bit confused here

[Guest]

Could be the perfect storm

But no, not either or.

And for not telling the truth

I've plead the fifth before.

'Cause in your local armory

You might swap me in kind,

For this life line's no aid;

Is another way to find.

A forceful piece that's constant

Carved a slice of special cake.

Put it all together and

Some sense of this you'll make.

a doughnut shape of some sort.

1. hurricane

2.

3.

4. life ring

5. angel food cake

i dunno, thinking out loud

[plainglazed]

uhh are those all parts of a word?? in dat case would the two lines of each doublet have to convey the same idea?? as in 2 different descriptions of d same part of d word?? a bit confused here

Now you've got me confused.

Each doublet hopefully describes a word. All of those words have something in common. It would be nice to have each word in addition to the common thread for the answer.

[plainglazed]

a doughnut shape of some sort.

1. hurricane

2.

3.

4. life ring

5. angel food cake

i dunno, thinking out loud

Sorry I had missed you palmerc7, you mustav posted while I was doing the same. You obviously have the format exactly right. Not the right answers tho...

[Guest]

Could be the perfect storm

But no, not either or.

And for not telling the truth

I've plead the fifth before.

'Cause in your local armory

You might swap me in kind,

For this life line's no aid;

Is another way to find.

A forceful piece that's constant

Carved a slice of special cake.

Put it all together and

Some sense of this you'll make.

Could be the perfect storm

But no, not either or.

don't guess. brainstorm?

And for not telling the truth

I've plead the fifth before.

Lying. Cannot be forced to testify against self. Don't want to give more hints? Misdirection deliberated?

'Cause in your local armory

You might swap me in kind,

Thoughts, wits, knowledge

For this life line's no aid;

Is another way to find.

I'm not what I look like? No help here...

A forceful piece that's constant

Carved a slice of special cake.

piece - gun piece =peace given a piece of cake=prize

Put it all together and

Some sense of this you'll make.

Are you telling us to brainstorm?

Edited June 2, 2009 by chicory

[plainglazed]

Could be the perfect storm

But no, not either or.

don't guess. brainstorm?

And for not telling the truth

I've plead the fifth before.

Lying. Cannot be forced to testify against self. Don't want to give more hints? Misdirection deliberated?

'Cause in your local armory

You might swap me in kind,

Thoughts, wits, knowledge

For this life line's no aid;

Is another way to find.

I'm not what I look like? No help here...

A forceful piece that's constant

Carved a slice of special cake.

piece - gun piece =peace given a piece of cake=prize

Put it all together and

Some sense of this you'll make.

Are you telling us to brainstorm?

no.

[Guest]

Along those lines, these are my thoughts for each line as I know:

Could be the perfect storm

But no, not either or.

Eye, or tornado, etc. Although, since it is NOT a storm, I'm sure my brain is going to click one of these days and I'll see a cool, clever connection

And for not telling the truth

I've plead the fifth before.

All I can think of is GUILTY, since that's likely why you'd plead the fifth

'Cause in your local armory

You might swap me in kind,

I would swap a knife for just about anything in my local armory

For this life line's no aid;

Is another way to find.

like a fishing pole? I'm not sure here

A forceful piece that's constant

Carved a slice of special cake.

I'm thinking a "special kind of cake," much like the storm idea I'm looking for. But, I'd say a knife would slice the cake, which is why my first guess was knife, the only two connections which seem similar to me. I don't know why I thought BUTTER, though.

Put it all together and

Some sense of this you'll make.

[Guest]

a berth day cake

[plainglazed]

Along those lines, these are my thoughts for each line as I know:

Good thoughts all, but not relative to this riddle this time.

May be obvious but am gonna state it here and now because I may have given the impression on more than one occacion that I am off of these but....

These are play on words. Not like the "quickies" where every couple of words represents a letter or two. But kinda similar with words instead of letters (you might say true POWs vs play on letters).

[plainglazed]

a berth day cake

Not it but thanks for gessin'.

[Guest]

Could be the perfect storm O

But no, not either or.

And for not telling the truth

I've plead the fifth before. S

'Cause in your local armory

You might swap me in kind, L

For this life line's no aid; O

Is another way to find.

A forceful piece that's constant V

Carved a slice of special cake.

Put it all together and

Some sense of this you'll make.

I know you said it's not a play on letters, but for fun, this is what I got : )

[tiger_lily111]

Could be the perfect storm

But no, not either or.

-- perfect storm: concurrence of factors resulting in disastrous situation

-- not either or: neither concurrence nor disaster -> separate (expected?) event

And for not telling the truth

I've plead the fifth before.

-- not truth: lies

-- plead 5th: protect self, prevent perjury

'Cause in your local armory

You might swap me in kind,

-- local armory: arms/weapons storage

-- swap in kind: trade in for similar value, swapmeet, trade show?

For this life line's no aid;

Is another way to find.

-- life line's no help: phone-a-friend, palm reading

-- another way to find: search, faith, palm pilot?

A forceful piece that's constant

Carved a slice of special cake.

-- constant force: gravitational?

-- forceful piece: continuous/enduring music

-- special cake: wedding, retirement, birthday, funeral -> celebration

[plainglazed]

I know you said it's not a play on letters, but for fun, this is what I got : )

Sounds like that was fun? So put it all together and maybe thats "finish capital five?" Not it, of course.

But I may have misled before when I said these are not plays on letters. In reviewing there are two cases here where letters are part of the word play (manipulation).

[plainglazed]

Could be the perfect storm

But no, not either or.

-- perfect storm: concurrence of factors resulting in disastrous situation

-- not either or: neither concurrence nor disaster -> separate (expected?) event

And for not telling the truth

I've plead the fifth before.

-- not truth: lies

-- plead 5th: protect self, prevent perjury

'Cause in your local armory

You might swap me in kind,

-- local armory: arms/weapons storage

-- swap in kind: trade in for similar value, swapmeet, trade show?

For this life line's no aid;

Is another way to find.

-- life line's no help: phone-a-friend, palm reading

-- another way to find: search, faith, palm pilot?

A forceful piece that's constant

Carved a slice of special cake.

-- constant force: gravitational?

-- forceful piece: continuous/enduring music

-- special cake: wedding, retirement, birthday, funeral -> celebration

Good stuff once again tiger_lily111. No wonder. You have a part of each word answer in all but the third stanza. Some of what you have may be the *root* word and in others may be part of how the word is *played*. Dont really know how to direct you further without giving away too much of the fun... Please keep going.

[deannaart]

Good stuff once again tiger_lily111. No wonder. You have a part of each word answer in all but the third stanza. Some of what you have may be the *root* word and in others may be part of how the word is *played*. Dont really know how to direct you further without giving away too much of the fun... Please keep going.

Man, Pg, you really have to undress your riddles right down to their tighty whities, don't you. I wish I could analyze these things better, but as soon as you said some of the answers are just letters, and not words, I got confused all over again!! Grr, the POW. I'll go back again and see what I can come up with. Do the clues add up to make one phrase, or one word?

Edited June 3, 2009 by deannaart

[Guest]

Could be the perfect storm

But no, not either or.

not certain

not lying

not pay

not help

not fair

NOT

And for not telling the truth

I've plead the fifth before.

'Cause in your local armory

You might swap me in kind,

For this life line's no aid;

Is another way to find.

A forceful piece that's constant

Carved a slice of special cake.

Put it all together and

Some sense of this you'll make.

[Guest]

not certain = uncertain, unsure

not lying = unresponsive, ambiguous

not pay = untaxed , not in kind or un-kind

not help= unhelpful

not fair =unfair unequal

the sense of NOT ,non,un = non-sense

[plainglazed]

not

[Guest]

what about my corrected version?

right after not

[plainglazed]

not certain = uncertain, unsure

not lying = unresponsive, ambiguous

not pay = untaxed , not in kind or un-kind

not help= unhelpful

not fair =unfair unequal

the sense of NOT ,non,un = non-sense

did the lying, pay, help, fair come from? not the right direction I dont think

This line is not that hard. I know you will get it. But will you get it first?

[plasmid]

I don't think I've seen the answer to the first clue yet: "nor", as in 'nor-Eastern, a common exp​ression for a horrible storm.

Nothing else really jumps out at me for the others, except maybe "pound" for the fifth one, but I'm not at all confident in that one.

[plainglazed]

I don't think I've seen the answer to the first clue yet: "nor", as in 'nor-Eastern, a common exp​ression for a horrible storm.

Nothing else really jumps out at me for the others, except maybe "pound" for the fifth one, but I'm not at all confident in that one.

Yes indeed, will say you have solved the first word.

Could be the perfect storm

- another meaning of perfect storm or perfect storm is an example of a "Nor'Easter"

But no, not either or.

- not either or = nor

- But no nor leaves

Easter--first clue

Well done plasmid. Get the next one and the connection between the five one word answers may come making the last three a lot easier.

[Guest]

This line is not that hard. I know you will get it. But will you get it first?

did the lying, pay, help, fair come from? not the right direction I dont think

uncertain was okay?