[plainglazed 67]

Could be the perfect storm

But no, not either or.

And for not telling the truth

I've plead the fifth before.

'Cause in your local armory

You might swap me in kind,

For this life line's no aid;

Is another way to find.

A forceful piece that's constant

Carved a slice of special cake.

Put it all together and

Some sense of this you'll make.

[plainglazed 67]

uncertain was okay?

Am so sorry chicory, had mistakenly thought all your answers above were about the first line. Your response concerning line two is relevent; just needs some more play. This line is even more like the *quickies* of before. The rest of your guesses are not on track. But these should become much easier after you get the first two words and make the connection. Then you may have some ideas of the others and be able to work backwards.

[Guest]

is the fifth one

short?

[Guest]

Could be the perfect storm

But no, not either or.

And for not telling the truth

I've plead the fifth before.

'Cause in your local armory

You might swap me in kind,

For this life line's no aid;

Is another way to find.

A forceful piece that's constant

Carved a slice of special cake.

Put it all together and

Some sense of this you'll make.

[Guest]

Could be the perfect storm

But no, not either or.

And for not telling the truth

I've plead the fifth before.

'Cause in your local armory

You might swap me in kind,

For this life line's no aid;

Is another way to find.

A forceful piece that's constant

Carved a slice of special cake.

Put it all together and

Some sense of this you'll make.

lies, (ly)

Edited June 3, 2009 by chicory

[Guest]

Could be the perfect storm

But no, not either or.

And for not telling the truth

I've plead the fifth before.

'Cause in your local armory

You might swap me in kind,

For this life line's no aid;

Is another way to find.

A forceful piece that's constant

Carved a slice of special cake.

Put it all together and

Some sense of this you'll make.

lies= isle

[plainglazed 67]

is the fifth one

short?

Yes, if you are referring to the actual length of what the fifth one refers.

No, if you're saying the fifth one means short somehow.

Man, I hope that does not confuse further.....

[Guest]

short epigram? or is there such a thing as gram (graham) cake?

[Guest]

lies= isle

[spoiler='for this life

am stuck']line's (lyings)

no aid no use

[plainglazed 67]

is the fifth one

short?

I did it again. Dont know what's with me and misunderstanding which line you are referring to. Assumed this time you were referring to *the fifth* in the clue for the second word.

As for:

short epigram? or is there such a thing as gram (graham) cake?

[plainglazed 67]

lies, (ly)

Yes, that is the correct start. Now a little more wordplay as directed by these two lines...

[Guest]

[spoiler='for this life

am stuck']line's (lyings)

no aid no use

lines no aid =n zero help =lies

gives: for this life lies

nope still stuck

[Guest]

Easter Isle lies short epigram

[plainglazed 67]

lies= isle

No, the second and third couplets are independent (represent two different words) hence the period.

...about the third and fourth, but still, each couplet will be a word and all of those somehow share a connection.

[plainglazed 67]

Easter Isle lies short epigram

Am obviously having trouble keeping up. Most simply, each two lines will translate into one word except the last pair of lines which tell you to find the connection between the five words.

have established lies/lie/lying for *not the truth* but needs further manipulation as directed by the rest of the wording in this pair.

lies, short, epigram are not on track.

[Guest]

Easter Isle Lies is not correct for the first three stanzas?

of course, they don't make sense with short or epigram..

[Guest]

I guess our posts are crossing, sorry.. I probably shouldn't type while i think.

[plainglazed 67]

Easter Isle Lies is not correct for the first three stanzas?

of course, they don't make sense with short or epigram..

Easter is correct

the rest am hoping is explained in our crossing posts.

[tiger_lily111 116]

another possibility

maybe Salvation Army?

Trade in Kind: Salvation - saving, rescue, redemption, pardon

[plainglazed 67]

another possibility

maybe Salvation Army?

Trade in Kind: Salvation - saving, rescue, redemption, pardon

Very logical but not going where I'm coming from...I would suggest concentrating on the second pair of lines. You, like chicory, already have the *root* word and just need to make a connection and follow the directions in the rest of those two lines.

[Guest]

Could be the perfect storm

But no, not either or.

And for not telling the truth

I've plead the fifth before.

'Cause in your local armory

You might swap me in kind,

For this life line's no aid;

Is another way to find.

A forceful piece that's constant

Carved a slice of special cake.

Put it all together and

Some sense of this you'll make.

[spoiler='A forceful piece that's constant

Carved a slice of special cake.']could also refer to pi (pie) if you think of pie as a special cake, which i'm not sure i would. Still, they slice similarly and they are both circles. Pi is constant. Forceful? Important, anyway. yeah, forceful.

[Guest]

Following all the 'work' Chicory has offered. I will stray from that thought

Atomic Bomb

[plainglazed 67]

[spoiler='A forceful piece that's constant

Carved a slice of special cake.']could also refer to pi (pie) if you think of pie as a special cake, which i'm not sure i would. Still, they slice similarly and they are both circles. Pi is constant. Forceful? Important, anyway. yeah, forceful.

I guess it could be and all.

...pie/pi in this one.

[Guest]

radius-aid=rus (ruse)

[Guest]

nevermind, don't got it crossed again

what idiot would compare a radius to a life line? not pg

Edited June 3, 2009 by chicory

[plainglazed 67]

Following all the 'work' Chicory has offered. I will stray from that thought

Atomic Bomb

Damn, I'm slow today. Just made the connection with the first word, chicory's second word, and your answer. I get it, but not it.