Guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 (edited) Ok, the next day will either have to be cut short, or end a little while later than usual. I probably won't have access to internet much tomorrow, especially late tomorrow night. That means I can't post the day post exactly 24 hours from now. Depending on how the discussion goes, I will decide earlier or later then, but for now be warne dof an extended or shortened day possibility. I will try to prepare the post beforehand, so it hopefully shouldn't take me as long to post it(should be better than the first night post - I was a little rushed). Edited August 6, 2008 by Frost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 hey everybody, I've been stuck in my aunt's house for a day and her internet just happened <_< to be messed up... a lot has happened, I have to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoruichi-san Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 yeah, cuz that's a non-Ninja night anyways: anyone have any suspicions or fingers to point? That's true, too...hmmm...here's a question... well, last game *both* the GR and Ninja died on the second night...if there had been Aurora, what would have happened then? They both get revived, but would the night post have revealed their identities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 That's true, too...hmmm...here's a question... well, last game *both* the GR and Ninja died on the second night...if there had been Aurora, what would have happened then? They both get revived, but would the night post have revealed their identities? No, their roles would not be revealed if the Aurora was cast. They were revealed in Mafia IV only because the GR would have won if he had not been killed by the mafia, so people had to know who he was and that he killed the ninja to win. Oh, I'm starting writing the next few day/night posts to get ahead so we can have better stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 That's true, too...hmmm...here's a question... well, last game *both* the GR and Ninja died on the second night...if there had been Aurora, what would have happened then? They both get revived, but would the night post have revealed their identities? I don't think the identities would get revealed cuz I guess the shaman uses his/her ability before the night post, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 (edited) I think that that GR-Ninja-Aurora thing is interesting... if their identities were revealed, then they would bothget killed a few posts after that, because the Ninja is a threat to the baddies and the GR is a threat to the good guys. If their identities were not revealed, then the GR would probably die the next night anyways because the Ninja would kill him/her. But seriously... what are the chances of that happening? Edited August 6, 2008 by frozen_in_fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 btw we need to vote carefully for the first lynching...We must take out time...I know it is sort of random. But its good news for us that the doc and healer have met up even in Mafia V and they can coordinate their activities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoruichi-san Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Okay, thanks Frost. Oh, and I think you did a fine job with the night post . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Just an observation... I'm thinking that GC was not the Penguin or the Inuit based on his aversion to snow in the night post. I might be reading too much into it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 (edited) ok so.. we can safely assume that GC wasn't a mafioso but he might have been be a QA , right? ( I know there were 3 QA targets last night but whats the rule? before getting killed, he might have chosen his target..this is all assuming he was a QA ) so GC might have been a - QA/the GR/ an Innocent. another one... Last night the QA targets were Brandonb, Yoruichi and Dawh. Can the QAs unknowingly target one of their own? If the answer is negative then we again can assume that those three aren't QAs? else... FROST pls answer.. Edited August 6, 2008 by Nayana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoruichi-san Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Well...the more I think about it (instead of falling asleep like I should be ;P), the more I think it's more likely for the baddies to hit each other earlier in the game (and hence the Shaman should wait to do Aurora)... ...The QA's don't know each other yet, so two of them could unwittingly hit the third one, but more importantly, they need to kill the GR in order to be able to kill the Yeti, and they don't want to accidentally kill the Illusionist before he/she turns into the Yeti, so their best bet is to target people who seem like baddies (until the GR dies)... If the Mafia know this, then they know the QAs are threats to them and hence, they may feel they have to "kill or be killed"... Since the Defender is not dead yet, the Ninja cannot be killed, and even if the GR does hit the Ninja, he/she won't die... I was trying to figure out the exact probabilities, but there were too many unknown factors to take into account (i.e. the unknown identities of dead people)...umm...it's late...need to sleep...I may be wrong...anyways, will be back tomorrow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaslickster Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 ok so.. we can safely assume that GC wasn't a mafioso but he might have been be a QA , right? ( I know there were 3 QA targets last night but whats the rule? before getting killed, he might have chosen his target..this is all assuming he was a QA ) so GC might have been a - QA/the GR/ an Innocent. another one... Last night the QA targets were Brandonb, Yoruichi and Dawh. Can the QAs unknowingly target one of their own? If the answer is negative then we again can assume that those three aren't QAs? else... FROST pls answer..It's is that time again. I still don't know who to vote yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey cells Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 GC's first and last ghost post. Thank you, mafia for giving me the honour of picking me to kill the first night. Though I will miss the scandalous lies and heated arguments. And reading too much into posts for hints is just bad for your health, as I have personal experience, heed my advice. And for the record, I haven't used any emotions , me being the ghost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandonb Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Well...the more I think about it (instead of falling asleep like I should be ;P), the more I think it's more likely for the baddies to hit each other earlier in the game (and hence the Shaman should wait to do Aurora)... That's really not a good idea for them. The best chance for the mafiosos (a illustrated in the last game) is to have the godfather check their target on the first night, and try to take out an innocent. B/C the QAs are running blind, and there's no helping whether or not the QAs will take out a mafioso. However, it is against the better interest of the Mafia to take out a QA, b/c then there are fewer baddies standing, and a much less likely baddie majority for the win. ...The QA's don't know each other yet, so two of them could unwittingly hit the third one, but more importantly, they need to kill the GR in order to be able to kill the Yeti, and they don't want to accidentally kill the Illusionist before he/she turns into the Yeti, so their best bet is to target people who seem like baddies (until the GR dies)... She's right, the QAs can unknowingly target eachother. Though in a private conversation I had with Unreality in Mafia IV, they could not kill eachother, they would only find their target to not be there. Is this still the case in this game? Or could they actually kill eachother? <-(Question 1) If the Mafia know this, then they know the QAs are threats to them and hence, they may feel they have to "kill or be killed"... Do the QAs have night invincibility during the night (until the meet up) as we agreed upon in the signup thread? <-(Question 2) Or does that not go into effect until Mafia VI? Anyway, If this is the case then we can be sure that GC was NOT a QA or a Mafioso Since the Defender is not dead yet, the Ninja cannot be killed, and even if the GR does hit the Ninja, he/she won't die... Right, though is the rule still in place that the Defender role still gets revealed day or night? <-(Question 3) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Good grief! There's a lot to read! I'm getting so confused with the Aurora stuff. I agree with Yoruichi that the innocents need to get organized...but how? This will be a tough lynching. ARGH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 So GC is dead already Who am I going to spat with ?? Oh, wait, I said I wasn't going to do that this game. Nevermind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandonb Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Wow, nearly 12 hrs in, and still no votes have been cast! Ok then, I'll start the blind lynch mob with... Host: Frost 1) Unreality 2) Brandonb - voting for Sinistral 3) Frozen 4) Slick 5) TwoaDay 6) Yoruichi-san 7) Taliesin 8) Itachi 9) CrazyPainter 10) Cherry Lane 11) Dnae 12) Nayana 13) Dawh 14) pw0nzd 15) GC - DEAD [?] Killed by Mafia 16) Dusty 17) Puzzlegirl 18) Tolecnal 19) Rene83 20) Sinistral It just sounds sinister to me Anyone have better reasoning? There's really not much to go by in the night post, and a vast majority of players haven't contributed yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 I'm pretty sure that the Defender's death is revealed, regardless. Not sure about the other questions, but I have a question of my own: Is the Special Mafia Wipeout an ability in addition to a kill, or is it an either/or situation? I could never tell from the description. Have to think about the lynching... Good bye GC, we'll miss you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoaDay Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 (edited) Host: Frost 1) Unreality 2) Brandonb - voting for Sinistral 3) Frozen 4) Slick 5) TwoaDay - voting for Sinistral 6) Yoruichi-san 7) Taliesin 8) Itachi 9) CrazyPainter 10) Cherry Lane 11) Dnae 12) Nayana 13) Dawh 14) pw0nzd 15) GC - DEAD [?] Killed by Mafia 16) Dusty 17) Puzzlegirl 18) Tolecnal 19) Rene83 20) Sinistral ill just go with that for now Edited August 6, 2008 by TwoaDay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandonb Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 ill just go with that for now AH HA! A BADDIE! I KNEW IT!!! Host: Frost 1) Unreality 2) Brandonb - voting for TwoaDay 3) Frozen 4) Slick 5) TwoaDay - voting for Sinistral 6) Yoruichi-san 7) Taliesin 8) Itachi 9) CrazyPainter 10) Cherry Lane 11) Dnae 12) Nayana 13) Dawh 14) pw0nzd 15) GC - DEAD [?] Killed by Mafia 16) Dusty 17) Puzzlegirl 18) Tolecnal 19) Rene83 20) Sinistral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 She's right, the QAs can unknowingly target eachother. Though in a private conversation I had with Unreality in Mafia IV, they could not kill eachother, they would only find their target to not be there. Is this still the case in this game? Or could they actually kill eachother? <-(Question 1) I didn't know this about the QAs in M-IV. I assumed they would kill each other. So the QA doing the targeting would then know that the person they chose is actually a QA? I guess this would help them find each other next night? Do the QAs have night invincibility during the night (until the meet up) as we agreed upon in the signup thread? <-(Question 2) Or does that not go into effect until Mafia VI? Anyway, If this is the case then we can be sure that GC was NOT a QA or a Mafioso What's this about QA invincibility at night? I just read all 40 pages of the signup thread and saw no mention of this. Perhaps its in the mafia role discussion thread, but I'm not going to read thru all that now, too. Anyway, it's not in the rules, so it shouldn't apply. Right, though is the rule still in place that the Defender role still gets revealed day or night? <-(Question 3) since I just read all of the signup thread, I read the rules and this is still in there. I also saw a post in the signup where you asked the same question, and it was answered then. what's your fixation with the defender? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoaDay Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 (edited) Host: Frost 1) Unreality 2) Brandonb - voting for TwoaDay 3) Frozen 4) Slick 5) TwoaDay - voting for Brandonb 6) Yoruichi-san 7) Taliesin 8) Itachi 9) CrazyPainter 10) Cherry Lane 11) Dnae 12) Nayana 13) Dawh 14) pw0nzd 15) GC - DEAD [?] Killed by Mafia 16) Dusty 17) Puzzlegirl 18) Tolecnal 19) Rene83 20) Sinistral tricky, well now im voting for you Bb Edited August 6, 2008 by TwoaDay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 TwoaDay: spite-voting already, eh? Not cool. Host: Frost 1) Unreality 2) Brandonb - voting for TwoaDay 3) Frozen 4) Slick 5) TwoaDay - voting for Brandonb 6) Yoruichi-san 7) Taliesin 8) Itachi 9) CrazyPainter 10) Cherry Lane - voting for TwoaDay 11) Dnae 12) Nayana 13) Dawh 14) pw0nzd 15) GC - DEAD [?] Killed by Mafia 16) Dusty 17) Puzzlegirl 18) Tolecnal 19) Rene83 20) Sinistral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoaDay Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 (edited) aww u guys are mean ;( well now this is happening Edited August 6, 2008 by TwoaDay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 AH HA! A BADDIE! I KNEW IT!!! That was nice BdB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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