dee_tot Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Are you guys voting inactive player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowAngel7 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Are you guys voting inactive player? I'm voting Panther because he's one of my few remaining suspects; his inactivity is a coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofpain Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 I am voting with Shadow due to shadow's guarantee of being a goodie... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamebirde Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) 1. Aaryan - REMOVED [Vandal Savage] 2. Panther 3. dee_tot 4. Kikacat123- voting for Panther5. Araver - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light"6. Vommack7. Kingofpain - voting for Panther8. Flamebirde - voting for Kingofpain9. Minesweeper - DEAD [Red Arrow] Lynched10. MikeD - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light"11. ShadowAngel7 - voting for Panther Well, if there are three remaining suspects on Kikacat's list, and two are voting together, I wonder who the baddies are. EDIT: If you can give me a good reason as to why you and Shadow are voting the same way, with nothing but Shadow's "guarantee" of being a goodie, I'd love to move my vote. Edited June 18, 2013 by flamebirde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowAngel7 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Well, if there are three remaining suspects on Kikacat's list, and two are voting together, I wonder who the baddies are. EDIT: If you can give me a good reason as to why you and Shadow are voting the same way, with nothing but Shadow's "guarantee" of being a goodie, I'd love to move my vote. Kika said, if I understand right, that 2/3 of those suspects are goodies. I might be misunderstanding what she said, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vommack Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 I can tell you right now that Panther isn't a baddie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee_tot Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Where are you Vommack? I need your opinion. I'm pretty sure you're one of the goodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofpain Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Also, shadow seems to have been blocked twice by Queen Bee, so you tell me how shadow could be a baddie... Unfortunately, none of us can reveal our roles since we cannot discount Klarion and/or Luthor being alive and it would hurt us for them to find out... I am actually not very happy about the hints some of the goodies have dropped... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vommack Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Where are you Vommack? I need your opinion. I'm pretty sure you're one of the goodies. Aaryan was bad, Panther is not. That's all I can clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee_tot Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Then my suspect is narrowed to kingofpain. And shadow is 50/50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowAngel7 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) I've cause to trust vomm. Switching as indicated. Also, king, Y-San has stated that Queen Bee's ability shows up regardless, and indicates nothing about the player's role gender in NP. 1. Aaryan - REMOVED [Vandal Savage] 2. Panther 3. dee_tot 4. Kikacat123- voting for Panther5. Araver - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light" 6. Vommack 7. Kingofpain - voting for Panther 8. Flamebirde - voting for Kingofpain9. Minesweeper - DEAD [Red Arrow] Lynched10. MikeD - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light" 11. ShadowAngel7 - voting for Kingofpain EDIT: fixing some excess formatting. Edited June 18, 2013 by ShadowAngel7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofpain Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 I can tell you right now that Panther isn't a baddie. Ok this reveals some more info: Shadow cannot be a baddie - Queen bee blocked shadow twice + shadow is a woman. This for me guarantees shadow's goodieness. Vommack predicted that aaryan is a baddie correctly after night 1. This means that vommack is either extremely lucky or is a goodie. I know I am a goodie, but after looking through the posts, I have nothing to validate this. Vommack, you were redirected on night 2. If you are basing your comment on info you got during night 2, then Panther is likely to be a baddie. If not, Kikacat is a liar... So Vommack, when did you find out Panther was innocent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowAngel7 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) I can tell you right now that Panther isn't a baddie. Ok this reveals some more info: Shadow cannot be a baddie - Queen bee blocked shadow twice + shadow is a woman. This for me guarantees shadow's goodieness. Queen Bee shows regardless of block/redirect. NP says nothing about what Queen Bee did to me (OOC, though, I am in fact a woman). Gender identifications for people Queen Bee acts upon are most likely about OOC gender. Vommack predicted that aaryan is a baddie correctly after night 1. This means that vommack is either extremely lucky or is a goodie. I know I am a goodie, but after looking through the posts, I have nothing to validate this. Vommack, you were redirected on night 2. If you are basing your comment on info you got during night 2, then Panther is likely to be a baddie. If not, Kikacat is a liar... So, if NP makes you think I was blocked by Queen Bee, how are you getting that Vomm was redirected N2, unless you redirected him too? If you did, then you really shouldn't have said that, as you just outed. So Vommack, when did you find out Panther was innocent? Replies to your comments in turquoise inside the quote tag. EDIT: rephrasing a tad. Edited June 18, 2013 by ShadowAngel7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vommack Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 I can tell you right now that Panther isn't a baddie. Ok this reveals some more info: Shadow cannot be a baddie - Queen bee blocked shadow twice + shadow is a woman. This for me guarantees shadow's goodieness. Vommack predicted that aaryan is a baddie correctly after night 1. This means that vommack is either extremely lucky or is a goodie. I know I am a goodie, but after looking through the posts, I have nothing to validate this. Vommack, you were redirected on night 2. If you are basing your comment on info you got during night 2, then Panther is likely to be a baddie. If not, Kikacat is a liar... So Vommack, when did you find out Panther was innocent? N3. Go figure. (In other news, I have a feeling Lex is coming for me after this. Thanks, eh?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoruichi-san Posted June 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 A couple more clarifications: There are absolutely no hints in my Posts (well, not that anyone who is not me would get anyways ;P). I have stated clearly what will be in Posts, and everything else is just poetic license (and as you may have noticed, I do like my poetic license *whistling*). If Miss Martians spies a player with multiple targets, she will only see one. My convention is always to phrase info results as "your target [is/did/etc]..." rather than "Bob [is/did/etc]". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofpain Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Ok... if the gender refers to OOC gender, then I have to rethink the whole thing (I swear I couldn't find a single post from Y-san that said this until after I asked). The fact that Queen Bee acted on vommack on the second night is in that night post. Since vommack is described as male in that post, I assumed his character was redirected (because that is what happens to dudes vs. Queen Bee) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofpain Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 My suspects are then Kikacat and Shadow with exactly one goodie and one baddie amongst them. 1. Aaryan - REMOVED [Vandal Savage]2. Panther3. dee_tot4. Kikacat123- voting for Panther5. Araver - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light"6. Vommack7. Kingofpain - voting for ShadowAngel78. Flamebirde - voting for Kingofpain9. Minesweeper - DEAD [Red Arrow] Lynched10. MikeD - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light"11. ShadowAngel7 - voting for Kingofpain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoruichi-san Posted June 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 I have no idea what OOC is, but the rules about what can be gathered from the Posts are in the OP, and the logical conclusions that can be drawn from "it will not be clear which [redirect/block] it is" . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowAngel7 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 I have no idea what OOC is, but the rules about what can be gathered from the Posts are in the OP, and the logical conclusions that can be drawn from "it will not be clear which [redirect/block] it is" . OOC, I meant out of character; i.e. regardless of the gender of my role, I, ShadowAngel, am female, and that's where the use of feminine pronouns when Queen Bee targets me come from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee_tot Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) Please add my vote to kitkat. Thanks. Will change my vote if I got info from other players. @shad, my action is shown in N3. Quoting myself. You guys miss my vote before Although I'm not sure if KiKacat is a baddies. 1. Aaryan - REMOVED [Vandal Savage] 2. Panther 3. dee_tot - voting for KitKat 4. Kikacat123- voting for Panther5. Araver - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light" 6. Vommack 7. Kingofpain - voting for Panther 8. Flamebirde - voting for Kingofpain9. Minesweeper - DEAD [Red Arrow] Lynched10. MikeD - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light" 11. ShadowAngel7 - voting for Kingofpain Edit: spelling of name Edited June 18, 2013 by dee_tot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofpain Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 I have no idea what OOC is, but the rules about what can be gathered from the Posts are in the OP, and the logical conclusions that can be drawn from "it will not be clear which [redirect/block] it is" . OOC, I meant out of character; i.e. regardless of the gender of my role, I, ShadowAngel, am female, and that's where the use of feminine pronouns when Queen Bee targets me come from. This is plenty clear now to me. However, that just leads me to believe that either you or Kikacat (not both) is a baddie. I am sure you think the same about me and Kikacat as well, so c'est la vie... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofpain Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 @dee_tot : Why do you suspect Kikacat? I am 50/50 between kikacat and shadow, so I will go with you because I trust you are a goodie... ( I also corrected your spelling of Kikacat ) 1. Aaryan - REMOVED [Vandal Savage]2. Panther3. dee_tot - voting for Kikacat1234. Kikacat123- voting for Panther5. Araver - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light"6. Vommack7. Kingofpain - voting for Kikacat123 8. Flamebirde - voting for Kingofpain9. Minesweeper - DEAD [Red Arrow] Lynched10. MikeD - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light"11. ShadowAngel7 - voting for Kingofpain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowAngel7 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) I have no idea what OOC is, but the rules about what can be gathered from the Posts are in the OP, and the logical conclusions that can be drawn from "it will not be clear which [redirect/block] it is" . OOC, I meant out of character; i.e. regardless of the gender of my role, I, ShadowAngel, am female, and that's where the use of feminine pronouns when Queen Bee targets me come from. This is plenty clear now to me. However, that just leads me to believe that either you or Kikacat (not both) is a baddie. I am sure you think the same about me and Kikacat as well, so c'est la vie... Actually, I've cause to believe Kikacat is clear. So unless Vomm was goodie-redirected N3, you're my only clear suspect. EDIT: goodie-redirected or Lex-manipulated. Edited June 18, 2013 by ShadowAngel7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee_tot Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 @kingofpain, that was my vote before, hours ago. And recently I have you as my suspect. And 50/50 to Shadow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofpain Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 If Kikacat and shadow are both baddies, then it would be absolute genius for Kikacat to redirect Shadow on 2 out of 3 nights... I do not mind losing to that, so I will retract my vote from them until vommack and Panther weigh in... I am voting for flamebirde because he is the one with the best guarded identity which increases the odds of him being a baddie... 1. Aaryan - REMOVED [Vandal Savage] 2. Panther 3. dee_tot - voting for Kikacat123 4. Kikacat123- voting for Panther5. Araver - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light" 6. Vommack 7. Kingofpain 8. Flamebirde - voting for Kingofpain9. Minesweeper - DEAD [Red Arrow] Lynched10. MikeD - DEAD [?] Killed by "The Light" 11. ShadowAngel7 - voting for Kingofpain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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