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No there is a contractual obligation, same as condo fees, mortgage payments etc. When you buy land within a municipality you are subject to the rules and regulations that go along with that. If you do not like them you can try to renegotiate with the town. this happens often with buisness who get 5-20 years no tax on the land when they buy. Also there are right of way clauses etc. For example at my house the electrical company has a right of passage through the back 15 feet. this means that if they need to get there they can and my shed can be moved by them without my consent and they do not need to reimburse me. I knew these conditions before I bought the house I cannot now say nope mr electrical company man you have no right to go on my land. The fact is it is very very doubtful they would ever have a need ot go there but that is beside the point. These rules/regulations are all listed before you buy, if you dont agree with them you can try to negociate them out but if you cannot you have 2 choices, either accept them or dont buy. the mafia does not tell you before you buy you will have to pay them they show up afterwards and let you know that accidents WILL happen if you do not pay them for their protection. There is no documentation to explain this to you in any way it is not a contractual obligation it is theft. In fact in your version of how the world should work that is exactly what you will get with your private security firms, they WILL do that. So tell me again if you CHOOSE to live inside a municipality why you think that equals you being forced to live there?

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No UTF just explain why this hypothetical BOB can decide he can ignore rules that are in place when he builds his house? If he doesnt want to pay taxes he can do as the real bob did here in quebec, he builds outside the municipality. you claim your are forced against your will to pay taxes. i have pointed out municpal taxes are only paid if you live in the municipality, I have also pointed out you can move outside the municipality if you CHOOSE to. Now you explain how you can be forced to remain within the municipality because if you are not forced to remain within the municipality you are not FORCED to pay taxes and your whole arguement falls down.

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PERT if 0 then O is 2nd as PORT =1

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No gvg, Bob knows the rules if he builds inside the municipality he has to pay property taxes. doesnt metter if he gets 0 benefit. The rules are clear before he buys. Aside from this Bob will not build inside municipality for other reasons than taxes. if he wants no roads then he will choose an island. also it will ALWAYS cost more to buy the land within the municipality than outside. if everythign is comign in by helicopter he can also avoid ATC restrictions by being in outside municipalities (rules are different if you fly over built up or non built up land) and outside of controlled airspace. Fact is just plain, Bob will never do as UTF claims in his hypothetical situation he will do as Desmarais did, outside of municipality for more than just tax reasons. Sorry the aside on roads got you you are not FORCED to live in the municipality UTF you are not a slave you can leave. The rules of living inside the municipality are posted and known. You live inside the municpality you pay municipal taxes you live outside you dont. Plain simple. You are once again busted. You cannot be foced to do something if you place yourself in the situation. YOU CHOOSE TO STAY YOU PAY. Now UTF try and explain why you are forced to live within city limits if you cannot do so then your entire premise is wrong!

lol how can anyone top that? well here are my lesser ones playing chicken with a train. playing dead hoping the train will leave you alone like bears do. trying to cross that bridge before the train gets there. deciding arsenic is a tasty spice like salt or pepper. using a hammer to see if an old mine from WW2 still works. using a lion to play rodeo and seeing how long you can hang on. using a shark to play rodeo and seeing how long you can hang on. (for those who prefer to swim)

this thread is pontless. UTF has not made 1 valid point. he believes he has made tons of them but he is so extremely involved in his ideological point of view that he cant even begin to look at his or anyone elses arguements critically. I Assume he will post another 3 pages of rambling nonsense and claim to have irrefutably negated everything everyone else has said but there is no point in continuing. Enjoy the kool aid UTF

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Like I said i am using municipal services/benefits because it is the simplest. Once you admit that it is not theft for municipal taxation I can deal with the other forms of taxation. I see no reason to muddle the water by expanding the discussion. like i said I just have to prove 1 tax is not theft/vioelence/slavery to destroy your premise, you have to prove that all of them are. So give up on the war I know it is your litttle pet peve but you claim all taxation is wrong. I have PROVED you wrong over and over in fact I had to repost 7 times before you even tried to deal with the question and even then you went off on a tangent about wars. Bob's name is Desmarais and he lives in Quebec and built his house outside of municipal boundries and doesnt pay municipal taxes. But beiong a moron you think Bob can ignore the rules that existed before his house was built and not pay municipal taxes? seriously. If bob is so rich to build this house he would be smart enough tto build it outside municipal boundries to not pay taxes. jus tlike desmarais her ein quebec. the rule sof the game are clear before he builds the house if he doesnt like them he can rubn fro office or just get politically involved and try to change the rules. I would hate to play a game with you as you seem to think it would be ok to change the rules at any given moment to suit your own personal wants/needs. YOU dont like paying taxes make decisions that avoid them, you dont like those decisions even more than not paying taxes then pay taxes.

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THRILL if 1 than S is 1st as SHRILL=2 if 3 than T is first.

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Nope i never said theat the govt owns your land, just the setback and it has nothing to do with paying property taxes. But once again you decide what my arguements are then come up with a coutnerarguement that has nothing to do with what I said. You seem to think that property taxes are used to fund the war in afghanistan. Municial property taxes are used by the municipality you in live to provide services/benefits on a local scale there is no municipal armed forces fighting in afghanistan. I keep repeating taxation is not theft/violence/slavery becaue you keep saying it is. You fail to see that I am using the simplest arguement because well I just have to prove 1 tax is not theft/violence/slavery to prove your assertian that all taxation is. You have given no explanation as to why property tax is theft/violence/slavery except to try and change the issue to non municpal taxation. again total failure Nope again wrong 100% your house exists because of the roads. they brought in the workers/machinery/materials that built your house, yes your hosue could have been built elsewhere avoiding the public roads but it would have cost way more (you would have had to build the roads) but it wasnt! let me sum up: Economics: you think monopolies create competition - wrong taxation: you imply municipal taxes pay for afghan war - wrong jutice: you think private pay per use courts (dro's) and private security firms will be more just - wrong current events: you think somalia is bad example of anarchy (many pages ago) and great example of working anarchy recent posts. Somalia is almost dead last in all measurable economic factor- wrong on both counts Laws: you think actual laws could create slavery/legal rape but ignore that with no govt there is no law therefore slavery/rape is no longer legal. Politics: In fact if you knew the way govt worked you would see that trying to pass a pro rape/slavery law would be turned down by the supreme court even if it somehow got throught the legeslative process. Actually I cant think of a single post you have had that has been correct on facts or logical in its argumentation. ill finsih with this Your arguement shave had nothing to do with mine they are asides on different subjects. You made the (Wrong) assertioan that taxation is theft/violence/slavery. then after god knows how many pages finally admitted you could move outside of your municipality and then tried to pretend that municipal taxes fund wars in afghanistan. Give me a break, learn how the current system works before you start telling everyone it is wrong and immoral.

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