Izzy

Ziggy: Mmarf.. chill. We put up with your distasteful table manners all day, enjoy the noise. Sound waves are brain massages. Take pleasure in it.

Ziggy: And nowadays, my tongue is free to speak and do as it likes. We're not abstract. We and the world look exactly as we'd be expected to look without an intelligent designer.

Ziggy: High Priestess? Now she sounds like fun. And no, what you're feeling are gravity, electromagnetism, strong force, and weak force. Combined, The Force. Your god is an unnecessary abstract.

Ziggy: Broski, chill. Don't get your panties in a bundle, that's my job. (@Unreality, my win-con should be impregnating the priestess, because that would be hilarious.)

Out of character: Lovely best friend of mine, I want to punch you. Ziggy: Whatevs man, it's the same force. My version allows freedom and happy living and yours make you uptight and annoying. Want me to get that knot outta your bra?

I doubt it, UtF hasn't come back yet. We need another topic, but I can't think of anything. =/

Ziggy: This force is nothing more than THE force, man. Feel it flow through your body and let you escape from everything, even yourself. Use the force, man, as it was intended to. The Force just wants to be utilized, not worshiped and feared. Hippy Jedis unite!

Ziggy: Oh yeah, brah? Prove it. *sits on the floor on a yoga mat with my feet on my thighs, arms behind me holding me up, relaxed, and awaits explanation*

XYSTI

XYLYL smile - (0) names - (0) caned - (0) extra - (0) elope - (0) grant - (0) topic - (0) breed - (0) apple - (0) zebra - (0) doser - (0) great - (0) press - (0) furry - (0) xylyl - (5) GJ +30 Izzy + 15.. Unreality - 274 Izzy - 257 t8t8t8 - 163 Framm - 157 Plainglazed - 144 Glycereine – 119 Dawh - 71 woon - 58 Golfjunkie - 30 blahblah99 - 28 yuiop - 21 Abhisk - 20 PVRoot - 15 Prince Marth - 15 DudleyDude - 15

^ That's an odd thing to say. Are you sure you didn't have anything to do with it?

_ _ _ _ _ smile - (0) names - (0) caned - (0) extra - (0) elope - (0) grant - (0) topic - (0) breed - (0) apple - (0) zebra - (0) doser - (0) great - (0) press - (0) furry - (0)

iTunes was on shuffle, and again, it manages to exemplify my feelings faultlessly. Important bits have been bolded. Have you been to the desert? Have you walked with the dead? There's a hundred thousand children being killed for their bread And the figures don't lie, they speak of human disease But we do what we want and we think what we please Have you lived the experience? Have you witnessed the plague? People making babies sometimes just to escape In this land of competition the compassion is gone Yet we ignore the needy and we keep pushing on We keep pushing on This is just a punk rock song Written for the people who can see something's wrong Like ants in a colony we do our share But there's so many other f***in' insects out there And this is just a punk, rock, song! Have you visited the graveyard? Have you swam in the s***? The party conventions and the real politic The faces always different, the rhetoric the same But we swallow it all, and we see nothing change Nothing has changed... This is just a punk rock song Written for the people who can see something's wrong Like workers in a factory we do our share But there's so many other f***in' robots out there And this is just a punk, rock, song! 10 million dollars on a losing campaign 20 million starving and writhing in pain Big strong people unwilling to give Small in vision and perspective One in five kids below the poverty line One population runnin' out of time, running out of time! This is just a punk rock song Written for the people who can see something's wrong Like ants in a colony we do our share But there's so many other f***in' insects out there And this is just a punk, rock, song! The figures don't lie, they speak of human disease But we do what we want and we think what we please One in five kids below the poverty line One population runnin' out of time! This is just a punk rock song, This is just a punk rock song, This is just a punk, rock, song! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuAaPKF1eAU

_ _ _ _ _ smile - (0) names - (0) caned - (0) extra - (0) elope - (0) grant - (0) topic - (0) breed - (0) apple - (0) zebra - (0) doser - (0) great - (0) press - (0)

This is actually one of the issues I refuse to compromise on. Everyone has the same right to life, and will therefore get the same medical benefits. 'Nuff said.

I suppose you think basic survival necessities like food and water are privileges too (they're just as important as health care, after all)? Does that mean we should stop offering free and reduced lunches to underprivileged kids in schools? To quote some song lyrics, "We are the angry and the quiet, the hungry and the cold. We are the ones who kept quiet, and always did what we were told. But we've been sweating while you slept so calm in the safety of your home. We've been pulling out the nails that hold up everything you've known." (Prayer of the Refugee - Rise Against, YouTube it, though I'm fairly sure you've heard it before.) What this suggests, is that while you allow the poor to perish out of view, they will start an uprising and demand the rights they are entitled to if you refuse to give it to them. And you know what? It won't only be the poor, it will be the rich and the generous that support them. Prevent another war. Equality. And like Eli (and I think dawh?) said, you have no way of judging potential. IQ test at birth? That proves nothing, because all your measuring is potential/speed of learning, not what they'll actually learn. That's why you'll see, all too often, the gifted kids get failing grades because they don't feel like applying themselves, while the average kids will thrive based off of.. whatever they feel their incentive is. I suppose you could start genetically engineering people, but that's incredibly expensive, and there will always be a hierarchy of intelligence, regardless of where the bottom begins. By getting rid of the lower class, the lower middle class will just become the new lower class, so nothing is accomplished. They're here to stay, and we can at least prove the wealth and capabilities of our society by providing for them. It isn't a waste of resources. Not only does it make us look good, but it makes people happy.

_ _ _ _ _ smile - (0) names - (0) caned - (0) extra - (0) elope - (0) grant - (0) topic - (0) breed - (0) apple - (0) zebra - (0) doser - (0)

Explaining my scale: 10 = hundreds of billions 9 = billions 8 = hundreds of millions 7 = millions 6 = hundreds of thousands 5 = tens of thousands (like 90k+ a year, still fairly middle class) 4 = Like 70k+ 3 = 30k+ 2 = 10k+ 1 = 5k+ I think that sums up our societal classes fairly well, no? The 10, with hundreds of billions, will still have hundreds of billions, even if forced to help the 1's, working off of minimum wage. If helped, they can move up to at least the 3's or 4's (It's sort of logarithmic, I don't actually have an equation), and the societal average increases. The society has the same amount of money, but the quality of the society has now improved. Do you get what I'm saying? And no, we're not helping people based on how much we "value" them. We're helping them based on the fact that they are PEOPLE, and we, as a civilized society, can overcome arbitrary chances of birth, and help PEOPLE. I'm sorry, but to suggest otherwise in this time and age is insane. Health care shouldn't be a privilege, which is what we're trying to change. By helping the weak, we separate the gap between rich and poor, and we improve altogether. You are making the gap wider. I understand it must be hard to see, but think about it. Think back to slavery. They used the same justification "Freedom is a privilege." No it lamping isn't, it's a right. "The good desks and chairs are a privilege!" No, it's a lamping right. I think you're arguing for the only form of legal prejudice left, and frankly, it's disgusting. Look at Germany. The poor are given welfare so they're off the streets and are healthy. Who looks better? America, with our crazy amount of bums, or the cleaned up Deutschland? The bums, in Germany, now not having to worry about hunger or shelter, can contribute. That system is way better. Oh your prodigy thing. Wtf. You're making dynasties of the rich. "Oh, well they can afford their baby, only they can have children!" I honestly wouldn't be surprised if you promoted the neutering of the poor to "lift the burden" off of society. Money doesn't make someone better. Their net worth doesn't give them more value as a person. Personally, I benefit more from that patty flipper at Wendy's than I do from <insert name of random rich guy>. I'd love it if my patty flippers didn't get sick because then my patty won't get coughed on.

_ _ _ _ _ smile - (0) names - (0) caned - (0) extra - (0) elope - (0) grant - (0) topic - (0) breed - (0) apple - (0)

Ca va mon ami!

So tempting.. I will. I'll just.. have to think..

_ _ _ _ _ smile - (0) names - (0) caned - (0) extra - (0) elope - (0) grant - (0)

_ _ _ _ _ smile - (0) names - (0) caned - (0) extra - (0)

Haha, yeah. I think I actually read it on Erowid at one point, but I was too sleepy to retain it. Add Shroomery and we're good. ...Your topic kind of went off on a tangent here. Go make me another riddle so I can pwn it. (This should be the BD version of "Mae me a sammich!")

My only complaints with that process is that it doesn't go in depth with the actual chemistry, but meh. Erowid + Wikipedia = Omniscience.