Izzy

The same as we have to care for our children. Those incapable of caring for themselves deserve help, and we as a civilized society should provide. In other loosely related news, holy factorial at my English class today. We had a prompt about gun rights, and it somehow turned into this huge gay rights/atheism/Tea Party idiots debate. So many people in my class are so.. eugh. I eventually shut them up about California voting against gay marriage by pointing out that mankind is inherently stupid and asking if we should bring back slavery if everyone voted in favor of it. I consider that a win, even if they don't.

I agree with Glyce completely. Though, if we are right about Harvey, the unwarranted bandwagon on Phaze will definitely point us to future targets.

Probably no defense because this half of the world is sleeping? ..Or, meant to be..

Blatant lies. It may only come off that way because of your sadistic tendency to mess with people's minds..

Weird indeed. Sucks that I can't play this game against you. ;_;

GMaster, no; 24...ish. Why?

Hell no.

I know. Ergo 'hehe'.

Yeah.. Though, I went back and reread. You're clear. Hehe.

For the record, I now question the hint based on the Mirror Glass/Opacity mix up on both our parts..

@Phaze: Remind me to quote that out of context some time. ..I take it Harvey's bad, then? Don't answer that, rhetorical question. Temporary vote that will remain if I reread the night post and it appears that someone wasn't redirected. *edit* Woah, wrong roster. Thought I finished reading the page.. Hosts: Hirkala and Blablah 1)Framm - Voting for RT 2)Lionheart 3)GMaster479 - voting for Marq 4)Vipe195 - Voting for Phaze 5)Filly - Voting for Fox 6)LJ 7)Phaze - Voting for Harvey 8)yuiop - voting for limey 9)Glycereine 10)Vineetrika 12)Marq 13)RainThinker 14)Harvey is voting for qwerty 15)Limey is voting for LJ 16)woon 17)qwerty 18)Fox - voting for LJ 19)MissKitten - voting for Phaze 20)EDM 21)NickFleming - voting for Phaze 22)Izzy is voting for Harvey 23)24_65... - Voting for Harvey 24)golfjunkie - Voting for Harvey 25)onetruth is voting for Marq Dead: 11)Molly Mae-Killed by Reflectors

If Harvey is a baddie, Opac should subtly let it be known, and not totally out himself.. @GMaster: To be fair, if I *was* pulling your leg, you already have fallen for it.

Nick isn't a baddie, his associates would have told him to shut up by now.

I meant the one that included Nick. He should at least realize that it's disappointingly imprudent of him to attempt to lynch Phaze on a 45% baddie chance when he has a 43% chance of being a baddie by the same analysis, especially when claims and hints have claimed to the contrary.

Misleading in what sense? That I've found it frustratingly obvious through this rather pointless discussion who Phaze is, and Nick is either blind or willingly ignoring it? A MASSIVE hint was dropped; I don't need to be Prism to see it if that's what you're getting it. If you're referencing the math, see my example.

Actually, let's continue on with the messed up math. Nick, I know you aren't who I am, I know you didn't spy on me, I know you aren't who Phaze is, and I know you aren't Prism. 25 roles, 4 you are not. 12 goodies, 9 non-goodies. A mere 43% chance that you're a non-goodie, *nothing* compared to Phaze's 45%! Just to put that into perspective for you.

Vipe, what 'facts'? Nick's math? That isn't factual whatsoever so much as a poorly formulated statistical assumption not taking into account that the event has already occurred.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster and his Noodly Appendage <3. Nick, that isn't how statistics work. I flip a coin. It lands on heads. BEFORE I flip, there's a 1/2 chance of it landing on heads. AFTER I flip, there's a 1/1 chance of it landing on heads. BEFORE roles are dealt, there's a 1/25 chance of Phaze being <role>. AFTER roles are dealt, there's a 1/1 chance of Phaze being <person>. It's kind of counter intuitive, but even if you narrow it down to five roles, four of which are baddies, there isn't an 80% chance that Phaze is a baddie, but rather a 100% chance that Phaze is who he is.

My god Nick, take the hints. Actually read before blindly accusing. The probability of an event that has already happened (like Phaze being dealt his role) is 1.0. There is a 100% chance Phaze is the role he is, not a 55% chance that he's other roles. Your statistics stem from numerical ignorance. Continue it, and I'll be forced to equate your fallacious mathematics and refusal to see the hints in this thread with badiness, because I know you're smarter than that. I can't control you.. Though if he keeps it up, I won't decline.

Nick, Prism will not out himself to save Phaze. The lack of pressure and an additional vote for him should make it apparent that you are wrong. Look at the amount of people online. It's almost certain Prism has been here.

*thinks you guys should chill out until Prism makes a call for this* Opacity can vouch for me..

Read my edit. Also, chill out a bit. No one's going to lynch you.

Phaze, remove your vote. Nick is acting far too skirmish and insensible to be a baddie. You're not helping. If you two keep it up, the goodies won't benefit from it. Nick, you too. Phaze is either the goodie Prism spied him as or Facade. It's impossible to know right now, but it makes sense to lean toward the former unless Prism does a follow up spy.

"Baddies potentially have a RID, should I publicize my spreadsheet?!" Wtf, no. Don't make it easier for them; we're all perfectly competent of creating our own spreadsheets, don't let the baddies/indies benefit from your work.

Read Facade's RD. If you were him, Prism wouldn't know it unless he spies on you at least twice.