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Thanks to the inspiration from this game’s creator, woon, here’s the third edition of this word game. To get an idea about this game you can read about The Oddest Out - 1 and The Oddest Out - 2. I’d like to introduce a few new twists to the game for 'The Oddest Out - 3', so here goes:

Each round will start when I post 8 questions. They will be something like: “What is a word that ends with the letter ‘t’?”

Each player will then PM to me TWO answers to each question:

1. The first answer will be the same as Oddest Out 1 & 2 - the most common answer: try to pick the answer that you think will be the most commonly chosen answer by all the players. If you think ‘it’ will be the most common answer to the example question, that is what you send.

2. The second answer will be your Oddest Out answer: you try to pick an answer that nobody else will pick, BUT to score highest it must be the answer with the fewest total letters. Now in the example above, you’ve picked ‘it’ as your common answer, so now you may want to pick ‘at’. But if somebody else picks ‘at’ for their common answer, you score nothing (see scoring rules below). So you might want to choose a three letter word, such as ‘jot’.

Words must be real dictionary words (including Scrabble ® dictionaries). The decision of the host (me) is final. If I’m not satisfied that it is an English Language word that is in some commonly accepted dictionary, I’ll ask you to send me a new word.

Your score for the round will be the sum of the scores for your Common word and your Oddest Out word. (See scoring rules below). I will post the scores; and then comes the fun: the EDC (Elimination Decision Circle).

Players with the lowest 50% of scores (rounded down for odd numbers of players) will enter the EDC. They have the opportunity to change up to 3 of their Common answers *and* up to 3 of their Oddest Out answers. PM me your changes; then I’ll re-calculate the scores and those scores will be final. Those in the EDC have the chance to make a “surgical strike” that can undercut players in the top rankings. Those on the top of the list just have to sit and hope they remain safe.

In each round of this Max version only one player will be eliminated -- the one with the lowest score.

When the field is reduced to five players, I’ll start asking for each player to submit TWO common words and one Oddest Out word.

When the field is reduced to three players, each will submit THREE Common words and one Oddest Out word.

For the showdown between the two finalists, I’ll ask each player to submit FOUR Common words and TWO Oddest Out words for each question. This should provide enough variability that there won’t be much chance of tie scores.

No discussion of answers between players, and no posting about specific answers.

Note that in this version of TOO, after you’ve been eliminated, you do not continue to participate by submitting “trap” answers to be used in the final round. The traps are built into the game in every round.

Scoring rules:

For the Common words, the scoring is the same as in The Oddest Out 1 & 2: Your score is calculated as 100% * (number of players with your word / number of players with the most common word)

For the Oddest Out word the scoring is as follows:

---For all words that someone used as a Common word: 0%

---For the shortest words not used as a Common word: 100% but shared equally among all players who select this word. So in the example, if two players chose ’jot’ as their Oddest Out word, they each get 50% for it; if three players used ‘jot‘, each gets 33.3%, etc.

---For longer words not used as Common words your score is 100% * (Number of extra letters in the shortest word / Number of extra letters in your word). As above, if this word is used by more than one player, the score will be shared equally among each of them. By “extra” letters, I mean that each question will specify some letters ('t’ in the example above), so each letter you add is an “extra” letter. So if ‘jot’ was the shortest word and your word was ‘best’ (and nobody else used ‘best’) your score would be 100% * (2/3) or 66.7%.

OK, sign-up can begin. I’ll post the first round questions after about 48 to 72 hours of sign-up. I’ll accept first round PM’s for about 24 hours before posting results, during which time you can still sign up and join the game.

Host: seeksit

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First of all, Congrats, Cherry Lane! Happy first anniversary! :thumbsup:

Here are the changes made in the EDC:

Gmaster479: Common:

5. night --> fignt

6. panel --> pane

7. auction --> creation

Odd: no changes

GC: Common:

4. tile --> tide

6. span --> pant

Odd:

1. hash --> brash

2. brook --> buick

No1slight: Common:

1. trash --> mash

7. motion --> lotion

Odd:

3. highlight --> hitchhike

7. creation --> reclamation

Now to save myself some time, and because the tables I create don't fit into the new narrower posting space, I'm presenting the results in two ways: First by question, then by player.

Common results by question:

1. cash (6 - 100%); mash (1 - 16.7%)

2. book (5 - 100%); back (1 - 20%); buck (1 - 20%)

3. hit (3 - 100%); high (2 - 66.7%); his (1 - 33.3%); him (1 -33.3%)

4. time (5 - 100%); tile (1 - 20%); tide (1 - 20%)

5. light (4 - 100%); night (2 - 50%); fight (1 - 25%)

6. span (3 - 100%); pans (1 -33.3%); pane (1 -33.3%); pants (1 -33.3%); pant (1 -33.3%)

7. action (3 -100%); motion (2 - 66.7%); creation (1 - 33.3%); lotion (1 - 33.3%)

8. cool (5 - 100%); pool (1 - 20%); fool (1 - 20%)

Odd results by question (not a single answer was trapped this round!):

1. gash, sash, wash (100%); flash, brash (50%); whitewash (11.1%); balderdash (10%)

2. bilk, busk, bank (100%); brick, buick (66.7%); berserk (28.6%); bundesbank (25%)

3. hie (100%); hint, hike, hive, hist (50%); hitchhike (14.3%); histochemistry (8.3%)

4. tine, tire (100%); trine, trike (50%); twinge (33.3%); trainee (25%); tantalize (16.7%)

5. might (100%); bight (2 - 50% each); weight, blight (50%); twilight (33.3%); welterweight (12.5%)

6. panic, spang, japan (100%); bedpan, expand, pandit (66.7%); timpanist (33.3%)

7. notion (100%); emotion, enation, caution (66.7%); traction (50%); composition, reclamation (28.6%)

8. tool (100%); stool, spool, drool (50%); retool (33.3%); archfool (20%); whirlpool (16.7%)

Results by player - common word first, Odd word second, each followed by their score:

woon

1. cash 100; flash 50

2. book 100; brick 66.7

3. hit 100; hint 50

4. time 100; trainee 25

5. light 100; twilight 33.3

6. span 100; expand 66.7

7. motion 66.7; emotion 66.7

8. cool 100; stool 50

underground_dan

1. cash 100; gash 100

2. back 20; bilk 100

3. hit 100; hike 50

4. time 100; tine 100

5. light 100; bight 50

6. pans 33.3; panic 100

7. action 100; notion 100

8. cool 100; spool 50

Gmaster479

1. cash 100; whitewash 11.1

2. book 100; bundesbank 25

3. his 33.3; histochemistry 8.3

4. tile 20; tantalize 16.7

5. fight 25; welterweight 12.5

6. pane 33.3; timpanist 33.3

7. creation 33.3; compostion 28.6

8. pool 20; archfool 20

GC

1. cash 100; brash 50

2. book 100; buick 66.7

3. high 66.7; hist 50

4. tide 20; twinge 33.3

5. night 50; blight 50

6. pant 33.3; pandit 66.7

7. motion 66.7; traction 50

8. fool 20; drool 50

Cherry Lane

1. cash 100; sash 100

2. book 100; busk 100

3. him 33.3; hie 100

4. time 100; trine 50

5. light 100; bight 50

6. span 100; spang 100

7. action 100; enation 66.7

8. cool 100; retool 33.3

No1slight

1. mash 16.7; balderdash 10

2. buck 20; berserk 28.6

3. high 66.7; hitchhike 14.3

4. time 100; trike 50

5. light 100; might 100

6. span 100; bedpan 66.7

7. lotion 33.3; reclamation 28.6

8. cool 100; whirlpool 16.7

andromeda

1. cash 100; wash 100

2. book 100; bank 100

3. hit 100; hive 50

4. time 100; tire 100

5. night 50; weight 50

6. pants 33.3; japan 100

7. action 100; caution 66.7

8. cool 100; tool 100

And so ... the final standings for Round 2:

1. andromeda . . . . . . 84.4%

2. Cherry Lane . . . . . 83.3%

3. underground_dan . . . 81.5%

4. woon. . . . . . . . . 73.4%

5. GC. . . . . . . . . . 54.6%

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6. No1slight . . . . . . 53.2%

7. Gmaster479. . . . . . 32.5%

This EDC did not change the standings, perhaps because the scores were so spread out. GC's EDC changes all hurt. :huh: Maybe you should have stuck with your round 1 strategy. But you survived.

And so, No1slight and Gmaster479, we're sorry to see you depart. It was great to have you play.

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Now we move on to The Oddest Out - 3, Round 3

IMPORTANT NOTE: In this round each player must submit TWO DIFFERENT Common answers and ONE Odd answer

And Here are your questions: What is ...

1. A word that ends with "CE"

2. A word of 4 or more letters that contains or ends with, but does not begin with "TOR"

3. A word of four letters or more that begins with "N" and ends with "E" and contains the letter "I"

4. A word that contains the letters "AI"

5. A word with 5 letters or more that contains "UGH"

6. A word with 4 letters or more that contains "OUT"

7. A word that ends with "OOK"

8. A word of four letters or more that contains "EF"

PM the answers to me in the next 24 hours. And remember to include THREE different answers to each question: your guess at TWO most Common answers and your Oddest Out answer (as short as possible).

Good Luck to everyone!

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Wow seeksit! That's a lot of typing... :wacko:

I can't believe I was the winner of this round :huh: cause round 1 I was over thinking things, and now I only had like 5 minutes to send in the answers and I wasn't even consulting the dictionary (I usually do that I admit :blush:)

But it does feel great though :)

Happy anniversary CL! :D

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Wow seeksit! That's a lot of typing... :wacko:

I can't believe I was the winner of this round :huh: cause round 1 I was over thinking things, and now I only had like 5 minutes to send in the answers and I wasn't even consulting the dictionary (I usually do that I admit :blush: )

But it does feel great though :)

Happy anniversary CL! :D

Yep, congrats, Andro. Because you asked me (even though you obviously don't need the notification), I just tried to PM you but your mailbox is full or something -- PM wouldn't go through. Good luck with the new round.

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IT has been 2 days after the round 3 starts. I hope everyone has submitted their PMs so Seeksit can calculate the result. :)

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IT has been 2 days after the round 3 starts. I hope everyone has submitted their PMs so Seeksit can calculate the result. :)

Not yet... sorry :blush:

I didn't know that I have to double my common words and I was busy... I'm sending the appendix in shortly... appendix :lol: I love that word! :)

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OK, here are the Round 3 results - a big turn-around:

1. GC. . . . . . . . . . 88.3%

2. underground_dan . . . 80.1%

3. woon. . . . . . . . . 71.1%

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4. Cherry Lane . . . . . 65.1%

5. andromeda . . . . . . 58.1%

Cherry Lane and andromeda - you are in the EDC. I have a feeling this could be a dangerous one ;D

In this EDC you can change up to SIX Common answers and up to THREE of your Odd answers, for a total of as many as 9 changes. As usual, PM the changes to me as soon as you are able, and Good Luck to everyone!

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GC - it looks like your new strategy worked for you. (care to tell me what it is?) I varied my strategy a bit - and failed! Time to go back to what has worked for me. But this double common-word thing is what has gotten me into trouble, I think.

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OMG, must I always been caught in the middle. :dry:

Can you imagine the impact of maximum 9 changes per EDC player? Wow!

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Woohoo! That was a brilliant strategy, even if I say so. :P

CL- Of course, I will spill it out. Abandon all hope. :lol: It worked for me, helped relieve the pressure on me I guess. No expectations to fulfill and that kind of thing. But really it wasn't much of a strategy, doubt it will help in EDC.

Good Luck, CL and CPB. And woon too, though I think he may be safe.

EDIT: UD and myself should be safe, I hope so.

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CL- Of course, I will spill it out. Abandon all hope. :lol: It worked for me, helped relieve the pressure on me I guess. No expectations to fulfill and that kind of thing. But really it wasn't much of a strategy, doubt it will help in EDC.

Well, if I went with "abandon all hope" I wouldn't make any changes. But I don't think that's a very good strategy here. Hope I chose better words this time around.

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Well, if I went with "abandon all hope" I wouldn't make any changes. But I don't think that's a very good strategy here. Hope I chose better words this time around.

I'm hoping you'll choose my words cause I won't change a thing :)

EDIT: Crap! I've just noticed that my gender is male?? :huh:

I don't remember becoming a boy?! :lol:

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True to her word, Andro changed nothing (but her sex :lol: )

Cherry Lane changed these Common Words:

5. cough to tough

6. pout to shout

8. clef to chef

... and these Odd words:

1. ace to puce

2. tutor to fetor

3. nine to neigh

Here are the common word answers listed by question:

1. ace, ice (4 - 100); nice, face (1 -25)

2. store, actor, story (2 - 100); storm, tutor, elevator, attorney (1 - 50)

3. nice (5 - 100); nine (4 - 80); noise (1 -20)

4. air, rain, aim (2 - 100); aid, main, fail, pain (1-50)

5. cough, laugh, rough (2-100); dough, ought, though (1-50)

6. bout, shout, about (2-100); pout, gout, mouth, outside (1-50)

7. book (5-100); look (3-60); cook (2-40)

8. chef (3-100); beef, left, thief (2-66.7); brief (1-33.3)

and here are the odd answers for each question (trapped words shown in red):

1. dace, mace, rice, race, puce (100)

2. stork, fetor (100); bettor, vector (66.7); actor (0)

3. niece, naive, neigh (100); noise (0)

4. ails, bail, waif (100); afraid (50); aim (0)

5. bough, ughed (100); trough (66.7); brought, through (50)

6. lout (2 - 50% each); outer (50); outing (33.3); bout (0)

7. dook, kook, rook (100); brook (50); look (0)

8. clef, weft (100); theft (66.7); useful, relief (50)

By player (Odd word last):

underground_dan:

1. ace 100, ice 100, dace 100

2. storm 50, store 100, actor 0

3. nine 80, nice 100, niece 100

4. aid 50, air 100, ails 100

5. cought 100, dough 50, ughed 100

6. pout 50, bout 100, lout 50

7. book 100, look 60, dook 100

8. beef 66.7, chef 100, clef 100

woon:

1. ice 100, ace 100, mace 100

2. actor 100, tutor 50, bettor 66.7

3. nice 100, nine 80, noise 0

4. rain 100, main 50, afraid 50

5. laugh 100, ought 50, brought 50

6. shout 100, about 100, outer 50

7. book 100, look 60, brook 50

8. left 66.7, beef 66.7, useful 50

GC:

1. ace 100, ice 100, rice 100

2. story 100, actor 100, stork 100

3. nine 80, nice 100, naive 100

4. air 100, aim 100, bail 100

5. cough 100, rough 100, trough 66.7

6. bout 100, gout 50, lout 50

7. book 100, cook 40, kook 100

8. chef 100, thief 66.7, theft 66.7

Cherry Lane:

1. ice 100, nice 25, puce 100

2. story 100, store 100, fetor 100

3. nice 100, noise 20, neigh 100

4. aim 100, fail 50, waif 100

5. tough 50, laugh 100, bough 100

6. shout 100, mouth 50, bout 0

7. book 100, look 60, rook 100

8. left 66.7, chef 100, weft 100

andromeda:

1. ace 100, face 25, race 100

2. elevator 50, attorney 50, vector 66.7

3. nice 100, nine 80, noise 0

4. rain 100, pain 50, aim 0

5. rough 100, though 50, through 50

6. about 100, outside 50, outing 33.3

7. book 100, cook 40, look, 0

8. thief 66.7, brief 33.3, relief 50

And so here are the final results for Round 3:

1. GC. . . . . . . . . . 88.3%

2. underground_dan . . . 81.5%

3. Cherry Lane . . . . . 80.1%

4. woon. . . . . . . . . 72.5%

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5. andromeda . . . . . . 58.1%

Cherry Lane's choices in the EDC were "surgical" - they moved her above woon;

but woon remained safe ...

It's been great to have you play TOO-3, andromeda; and it is sad that you are the one to go.

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For the four remaining players,

here are the questions for The Oddest Out - 3, Round 4

IMPORTANT NOTE: In this round, as in Round 3 each player must submit TWO DIFFERENT Common answers and ONE Odd answer

And Here are your questions: What is ...

1. A word of 4 letters or more that ends with "ALL"

2. A word of 4 or more letters that ends with "OOT"

3. A word of four letters or more containing "RID"

4. A word of four letters or more containing "IF"

5. A word that begins with "P" and ends with "N"

6. A word with 4 letters or more that ends with "AVE"

7. A word of four letters or more that contains "FOR"

8. A word of five letters or more that ends with "LAND" (no proper names, remember)

PM the answers to me as soon as you can. And remember to include THREE different answers to each question: your guess at TWO most Common answers and your Oddest Out answer (as short as possible without being trapped by a common word).

Good Luck to everyone!

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Sorry, all, for the delay. I'd hoped to submit my words this evening, but I'm not feeling well (something I ate :( ), so I'm off to bed and this will have to wait another day.

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Sorry, all, for the delay. I'd hoped to submit my words this evening, but I'm not feeling well (something I ate :( ), so I'm off to bed and this will have to wait another day.

That's too bad. Take care and get well soon.

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OK, I have the answers from CL, but am still waiting to hear from Dan, who is apparently busy with work.

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Sorry to keep everyone waiting, but I've had an extremely busy week at work and had very little time to eat and sleep let alone contemplate playing TOO-3. My words are in now and its now the weekend (in Oz anyway 5.15 in the evening, reminds me of The Who song) so I'll be quieter at work and so if I'm still involved I'll be more prompt with my answers.

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At long last here are the results for Round 4. It is a pretty tight battle:

1. Cherry Lane . . . . . 80.2%

2. underground_dan . . . 79.9%

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3. GC. . . . . . . . . . 76.7%

4. woon. . . . . . . . . 63.5%

GC and woon, you have the chance to shake things up in the EDC. As with the previous round, you may make up to six changes to your 16 Common word choices and up to 3 changes to your Odd words.

Good luck with your choices, and good luck to everyone.

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Here the results of Round 4 after the EDC:

Sticking with the strategy that has worked, GC made no changes

Woon changed these Common Words:

2. boot to shoot

4. wife to gift

5. pan to pin

7. fort and ford to forgive and forget

8. gland to wonderland

... and these Odd words:

5. pattern to peen

6. slave to suave

7. afford to forworn

So with these changes made, here are the common word answers listed by question:

1. ball (4-100), tall (2-50), call (1-25), fall (1-25)

2. boot (3-100), foot (3-100), root (1-33.3), shoot (1-33.3)

3. ride (4-100), grid (3-75), bride (1-25)

4. life (3-100), gift (3-100), wife (1-33.3), shift (1-33.3)

5. pen (4-100), pin (3-75), pan (1-50)

6. have (4-100), save (3-75), cave (1-25)

7. form (3-100), fort (2-66.7), fork (1-33.3), forgive (1-33.3), forget (1-33.3)

8. island (3-100), bland (3-100), gland (1-33.3), wonderland (1-33.3)

And here are the odd answers for each question (trapped words shown in red):

1. pall (2 - 50% each); stall, spall (50)

2. coot, soot, toot (100); cheroot (25)

3. acrid (100), lurid (2 - 50% each); ridotto (50)

4. naif, coif, sift (100); trifid (50)

5. porn, pion, pawn, peen (100)

6. pave (100); stave, suave, agave (50)

7. ford (100); forge, forum (50); forworn (25)

8. eland (2 - 50% each); homeland (25); island (0)

By player (Odd word last):

underground_dan:

1. ball 100, fall 25, pall 50

2. boot 100, foot 100, toot 100

3. ride 100, grid 75, acrid 100

4. life 100, wife 33.3, sift 100

5. pin 75, pen, 100, pawn 100

6. have 100, cave 25, pave 100

7. fort 66.7, form 100, ford 100

8. bland 100, island 100, eland 50

woon:

1. ball 100, call 25, spall 50

2. root 33.3, shoot 33.3, cheroot 25

3. ride 100, bride 25, ridotto 50

4. life 100, gift 100, trifid 50

5. pen 100, pin 75, peen 100

6. have 100, save 75, suave 50

7. forgive 33.3, forget 33.3, forworn 25

8. island 100, wonderland 33.3, homeland 25

GC:

1. ball 100, tall 50, stall 50

2. boot 100, foot 100, coot 100

3. ride 100, grid 75, lurid 50

4. gift 100, shift 33.3, naif 100

5. pan 25, pen 100, porn 100

6. have 100, save 75, stave 50

7. form 100, fort 66.7, forum 50

8. bland 100, gland 33.3, island 0

Cherry Lane:

1. ball 100, tall 50, pall 50

2. boot 100, foot 100, soot 100

3. grid 75, ride 100, lurid 50

4. gift 100, life 100, coif 100

5. pin 75, pen 100, pion 100

6. save 75, have 100, agave 50

7. form 100, fork 33.3, forge 50

8. island 100, bland 100, eland 50

And so here are the final results for Round 4:

1. underground_dan . . . 83.3%

2. Cherry Lane . . . . . 81.6%

3. GC. . . . . . . . . . 73.3%

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4. woon. . . . . . . . . 59.4%

GC's strategy of holding on to the initial choices worked.

Woon, you made some important changes that moved Dan above Cherry Lane ...

But they couldn't save you from elimination. It is sad to see you go.

It has been a pleasure to have you play, woon; and thank you ever so much for being the creator of this excellent game.

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For the three remaining players,

here are the questions for The Oddest Out - 3, Round 5 -- the semifinal round.

IMPORTANT NOTE: In this round each player must submit THREE DIFFERENT Common answers and ONE Odd answer

And Here are your questions: What is ...

1. A word of 4 letters or more that ends with "MB"

2. A word that contains "YE"

3. A word of 4 letters or more containing "RAP"

4. A word containing "OA"

5. A word that begins with "B" and ends with "ND"

6. A word with 4 letters or more that contains "ACE"

7. A word that begins with "TRANS"

8. A word of 5 letters or more that ends with "EVER"

PM the answers to me as soon as you can. And remember to include FOUR different answers to each question: your guess at THREE most Common answers and ONE Oddest Out answer (as short as possible without being trapped by a common word).

Good Luck to everyone!

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woot! I can see I made many changes from good to bad.

Anyway, it is fun to play a game that I was the 'creator' :P and didn't expect me to reach to the final 4!

thanks seeksit! :D

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