Guest Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 winners : x asylums : x trivial : o departs : xo vitamin : x springs : x service : oo cocoons : xxxo crayons : xx cottons : xxx dotcoms : xxxo marinas : x About your ealier observation: please remember that the same vowel may appear many times in a word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andromeda Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 (edited) Funny thing, all my vowels are canceling out too! I probably made a mistake somewhere Edited April 26, 2009 by andromeda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brandonb Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 yeah... without making any assumptions, and without using the word 'marinas' we can know for a fact that 'niramy' are not possible letters through the analysis words containing only 'X's having the same yet displaced letters between them. Then when including the word marinas, we know that 's' must be the last letter and that there are no double 's's. So that means 'aeiunrmywlpg' cannot be letters. At that point the only things still available are: v_t____ : x d____t_ : o t__v___ : o ___v_c_ : oo cocoo__ : xxo c___o__ : x cotto__ : xx dotco__ : xxo and from the 4th word, you can see that the only two letters that are possible are 'V' and 'C'. which means t is also a goner, and that the first letter MUST be 'V'. Yielding: v______ : x d______ : o ___v___ : o ___v_c_ : oo cocoo__ : xxo c___o__ : x cotto__ : xx dotco__ : xxo Now, since C has been absolutely confirmed as a Letter, that means, b/c of the 6th word down on the list, 'O' is no longer an option. This makes our new list of absolute without fallacy, canceled letters to be 'aeiouynrmwlpgt' For the record, that is a e i o u y... all positive to have absolutely no possibility of being contained in the word. Which means there is a mistake somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 (edited) There is no mistake. winners : x asylums : x trivial : o departs : xo vitamin : x springs : x service : oo cocoons : xxxo crayons : xx cottons : xxx dotcoms : xxxo marinas : x cartons : xx Edited April 26, 2009 by WilsonsMum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Funny thing, all my vowels are canceling out too! I probably made a mistake somewhere winners : x asylums : x trivial : o departs : xo vitamin : x springs : x service : oo cocoons : xxxo crayons : xx cottons : xxx dotcoms : xxxo marinas : x cartons : xx mistake : o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 yeah... without making any assumptions, and without using the word 'marinas' we can know for a fact that 'niramy' are not possible letters through the analysis words containing only 'X's having the same yet displaced letters between them. Then when including the word marinas, we know that 's' must be the last letter and that there are no double 's's. So that means 'aeiunrmywlpg' cannot be letters. At that point the only things still available are: v_t____ : x d____t_ : o t__v___ : o ___v_c_ : oo cocoo__ : xxo c___o__ : x cotto__ : xx dotco__ : xxo and from the 4th word, you can see that the only two letters that are possible are 'V' and 'C'. which means t is also a goner, and that the first letter MUST be 'V'. Yielding: v______ : x d______ : o ___v___ : o ___v_c_ : oo cocoo__ : xxo c___o__ : x cotto__ : xx dotco__ : xxo Now, since C has been absolutely confirmed as a Letter, that means, b/c of the 6th word down on the list, 'O' is no longer an option. This makes our new list of absolute without fallacy, canceled letters to be 'aeiouynrmwlpgt' For the record, that is a e i o u y... all positive to have absolutely no possibility of being contained in the word. Which means there is a mistake somewhere. Yes, there is a mistake ... in your logic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandonb Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Yes, there is a mistake ... in your logic! sorryI see that when I was eliminating the ending S's, I was double counting the last blank in 'service' as an 's' instead of an 'e'. sorry!My logic was fine, it was a stupid mistake with double counting a blank! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 winners : x asylums : x trivial : o departs : xo vitamin : x springs : x service : oo cocoons : xxxo crayons : xx cottons : xxx dotcoms : xxxo marinas : x cartons : xx mistake : o cohosts : xxo cohorts : xxo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 sorryI see that when I was eliminating the ending S's, I was double counting the last blank in 'service' as an 's' instead of an 'e'. sorry!My logic was fine, it was a stupid mistake with double counting a blank! I would call this a mistake in logic No problem, it's just a game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 winners : x asylums : x trivial : o departs : xo vitamin : x springs : x service : oo cocoons : xxxo crayons : xx cottons : xxx dotcoms : xxxo marinas : x cartons : xx mistake : o cohosts : xxo cohorts : xxo churros : xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andromeda Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 (edited) I think I got it. __s____ : o ___v___ : o ______s : x ______s : x v______ : x ______s : x ______s : x s__v___ : oo d_____s : xo _____os : xx ____o_s : xx ____o_s : xx _o_o__s : xxo _o_o__s : xxo _o__o_s : xxx _o_oo_s : xxxo do__o_s : xxxo voodoos Thanks WM this one was super fun to figure out! I shuffled the words a bit to make it easier and I think I finally managed to solve it! I started it five times from the beginning, but it was really mind boggling cause I kept thinking that there must be a C in it! EDIT: I'm off to sleep now so anyone who wants can start a new one! Edited April 26, 2009 by andromeda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 (edited) I think I got it. __s____ : o ___v___ : o ______s : x ______s : x v______ : x ______s : x ______s : x s__v___ : oo d_____s : xo _____os : xx ____o_s : xx ____o_s : xx _o_o__s : xxo _o_o__s : xxo _o__o_s : xxx _o_oo_s : xxxo do__o_s : xxxo voodoos Thanks WM this one was super fun to figure out! I shuffled the words a bit to make it easier and I think I finally managed to solve it! I started it five times from the beginning, but it was really mind boggling cause I kept thinking that there must be a C in it! EDIT: I'm off to sleep now so anyone who wants can start a new one! You did awesome, Andromeda I am off to sleep too. I had a very long day testing a new software system. Brainden kept me amused between testin runs. Edited April 26, 2009 by WilsonsMum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andromeda Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 OK since nobody started a new one and it's my turn anyway I'm thinking of a 7 letter word! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmaster479 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Wow very good. I guess I wasn't too far off with cocoons. churros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andromeda Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Pshhh... I thought we never gonna continue this game churros o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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andromeda Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 (edited) Oh come on! Guess with more than one word! churros o golfing xxx Nice Edited April 26, 2009 by andromeda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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