TimeSpaceLightForce Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 3 match moves to balance symmetrically …Can you spot it? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 plainglazed Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Perhaps check it again Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) ** This is my actual answer for the puzzle: Slide the two middle vertical matchsticks down one matchstick length. On the second line of three horizontal matchsticks, slide the middle matchstick down until its ends join up with the open ends of the two matchsticks that were previously slid down. The figure should now look like a square cross. Edited May 10, 2015 by Perhaps check it again 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Perhaps check it again Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) Here is a diagram of the solution: ______ | | _____| |_____ | | |_____ _____| | | |_____| The broken lines do not represent two matchsticks. There are meant to be 12 matchsticks in the above figure. Edited May 10, 2015 by Perhaps check it again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 TimeSpaceLightForce Posted May 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 The cross will tilt to the right 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Perhaps check it again Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) Incorrect, TimeSpaceLightForce. In my explanation and diagram, I already showed that it will be a square cross. It will not be off center. Please look at those posts again. Consider that your figure is already starting off with a vertical line of symmetry. Dropping the three matchsticks down in the way I have indicated does not change that vertical line of symmetry. Edited May 12, 2015 by Perhaps check it again 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 TimeSpaceLightForce Posted May 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 Incorrect, TimeSpaceLightForce. In my explanation and diagram, I already showed that it will be a square cross. It will not be off center. Please look at those posts again. Consider that your figure is already starting off with a vertical line of symmetry. Dropping the three matchsticks down in the way I have indicated does not change that vertical line of symmetry. Check it again,perhaps you didnt considered the heads.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Perhaps check it again Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 No, I would have no reason to consider the [placement of the] heads, because it is a matchsticks puzzle. The matchsticks puzzles have never limited themselves to placement of the heads. If you had wanted that extra condition, then you are changing what kind of traditional puzzle this is and not announcing in the rules. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 TimeSpaceLightForce Posted May 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 No, I would have no reason to consider the [placement of the] heads, because it is a matchsticks puzzle. The matchsticks puzzles have never limited themselves to placement of the heads. If you had wanted that extra condition, then you are changing what kind of traditional puzzle this is and not announcing in the rules. Last time I checked , the title certainly refers to weight or mass (of sticks w/ head). While matchsticks never limited themselves to matchstick puzzle of a traditional kind. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 TimeSpaceLightForce Posted May 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 It does because the title is connected to the figure and the question.. The firgure are rectangles with elipse on top of one end.. no color, but common sense tells us it represent an arrangement of matchsticks that need to be modify for higher symmetry.. You could see dozen solutions easily , Yet chosen the square cross..why not the 2x2 square? why not the tic-tac-toe? This is where you supposed start to wonder and recheck and reconsider everything.. or 'look inside the box'. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 bonanova Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 the red ends cannot be taken into consideration, It's not clear whether the back story to this post is the escape from constraint of anyone else's opinion, or simply the claim of absolute superiority of one's own thinking. This uncertainty is a meta-puzzle in itself, and it is one that may merit its own thread. However, this forum is for questions about logic and math, so if such a thread is started it should be placed in the Others forum.Further posts of this type are subject to deletion.Regarding the current thread, the author of the OP put "red ends" in his drawing, and he confirmed, when the question was raised, they are part of the required symmetry of the solving configuration. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 TimeSpaceLightForce Posted May 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 This is a simple mechanics+ geometry puzzle.. I'm not sure if the "2015 MIT Mystery Hunt" is a type of metapuzzle? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 bonanova Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Best I can do is to change four matches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 plainglazed Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 TimeSpaceLightForce Posted May 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Best I can do is to change four matches. match4.gif Almost that is it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 TimeSpaceLightForce Posted May 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) matchsticks2.jpg When we cut it half through the center at any angle the two parts are the same shape or configuration.. Edited May 17, 2015 by TimeSpaceLightForce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 TimeSpaceLightForce Posted May 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Lets see.. Not like how I imagine it ( center of gravity in x-y-z symmetry). But that is better! The flat solution is to turn around the right side stick of top box..that will make the top box and the lower right box symmetrical.. and the rest are easy to form one like that of bonanova's "pisces" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 bonanova Posted May 24, 2015 Report Share Posted May 24, 2015 The flat solution is to turn around the right side stick of top box..that will make the top box and the lower right box symmetrical.. and the rest are easy to form one like that of bonanova's "pisces" Ah, yes... I had a notion of changing the right side rather than the left, but didn't follow through. Nice one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 bonanova Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Just to finish this one up, using TSLF's clue, here is a planar three-match solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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