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Also...doubt the baddies have forgotten but maybe some goodies have. USA can not die on odd nights. Only person that can prevent USA RID Killing a baddie is Iran or a misguided goodie. Or USA guessing wrong... Araver, can Sweden arrest the same person twice in a row? If Iran is lynched and Molly is Argentina...then just China will be left.

Already asked that maurice. Redirect, Arrest and Trap occur before Kill so they would go through. If you reread what I said... Framm, Marq and Shadow were the baddies only if everyone was telling the truth. Solman, Australia spied Molly N1. USA knows who Molly is. I said Molly was spied as Spain. If Molly isn't Spain then Molly HAS to be Argentina. If you trust what I say. You all notice Molly was trying to get me to arrest him and Hirkala didn't want me to? I still think lynching Iran is the best possible outcome of D2. Araver, if the baddies are eliminated does anyone assigned to UN Alliance win regardless of wincon being met?

@Molly - Who did you send a message to tonight and who did you try to send to N1? What were the contents of the message?

Kind of a weak clue but his following Hirkala and wanting to vote with Hirkala went along with it. The real buddying up happened after this post though... Guess the question is...is anyone else claiming Russia? Information on Marq would be helpful. Either England telling who they are or Israel tell us who they redirected them to. Would a redirect on China effect their vote change during the day? Solman, I had you down as Germany, England, Spain or Israel. Is your voting for Molly with a reason? If so I would suggest saving Molly for Hirkala N3 unless another baddie doesn't show. The ideal target for lynch today would be Iran. All China and Argentina can really do at night is Kill. Not too scared of more spying N3. Did anyone get a message from Spain last night?

Here are all the posts maurice made before saying he left a clue. I picked up the reference to USA in the first (last listed) post as the clue.

Everything else I said was how I saw things.

That was my orignal plan. After I lost my extra spy I decided my best chance to win was by eliminating the baddies instead of going for my individual wincon. So I decided on the info dump to give all the info I know to the goodies. Baddies already knew Solman was a goodie so no loss there and Spain is meh so I didn't see a loss there. (Baddies would already know the result of the spy if Molly is Argentina.)

Just got confirmation so reasking in game thread. if England tells us who Marq is does that count as outing that Australia died?

But that would mean Russia didn't try to use his vote mod... I think I was a bit too sure about maurice being Russia. I was seeing a 4-4 tie with maurice having changed his vote to x2 which would have required China to act to lynch Vine. Going to go through all his posts again to find the hints that made me think he was Russia. Grats on making it through N2 too Solman. Would have felt bad if you had died N2 after not being able to do anything N1/D1.

Reminder... Hirkala was claiming USA Maurice was claiming Russia Golf was claiming Germany Thalia was claiming England Solman is UN Alliance Molly was spied as Spain and is claiming Spain I can confirm that Hirkala is UN Alliance Framm was killed by the Secret Alliance so either the baddies are messing with us or someone above is lying Israel didn't act so was Framm Israel or do the goodies have two vote mods today? You might want to recount the goodies vote numbers Maurice. --- Hirkala was worried about dying last night and I made sure he didn't. Was I supposed to expect Germany to believe me about who I thought Hirkala was? Did you notice that Iran only had one action? Do you think he rolled a spy or no action again? You are claiming Russia maurice so mind telling us what you learned? Even if only their faction. Or did you waste your spy on me? Care to explain what difference there is between you guys hinting to one role and someone acknowledging that they realize you are hinting at one role and what role you are hinting at? That is the reason why I said *CLAIMING*. Not my fault you guys dropped hints that limit yourself to one role. The only things I know for sure are that Solman and Hirkala are UN and that Molly was spied as Spain. Everything else is based upon what has been said. You want me to point to the posts where you're hints limited you to claiming one role? Baddies have three sets of eyes to catch those hints, each goodie only has one set. I'm trying to narrow down the baddies or make sure people are caught in lies. --- Waiting for others to chime in. People are going to have to start sharing info if you hope to lynch a baddie today.

You are fine with maurice using two words to prove two letters in a go but want to complain about me listing 3 words before you could. I really do not care anymore. I give up.

if it is POUFFE...you are weird

MOTIVE VOLUME VOTIVE In that order

Says one of the suspected baddies... Trying to protect your comrade? You can't be Spain since you didn't even hint about Molly claiming that role. Which one are you China or Iran? Does it matter? I wants to trap either of those!!! I think you'd look nice in prisoner orange.

Also do not think I didn't noticed your attempt to appear ignorant of Iran's abilities. It is really not that hard to look at the first page and see that Iran does NOT have a choice of action role. "(unless the baddie roll has a choice)" how cute!

Why would the baddies kill me before trying to kill a goodie? Why would the goodies kill me before trying to kill a baddie? I am not part of anybody's wincon. If the baddies get lucky I'm expecting to be redirected. Kind of curious what would happen if both Iran and Israel tried to redirect someone at the same time. Maybe my real secret wincon

So it is only outing if you say the role by name? A person can hint so strongly that it can only be one role they are hinting about but as long as the role itself isn't named it is not outing? Or was it saying I think you are telling the truth that is the outing part? Was it because I brought a picnic basket with me to the outing that made it an outing? Sorry you didn I am not bipolar, what would make you think that?

Ignore everything I have said! I've been lying about everything! I'm not Sweden. I'm Norway. We took Sweden over with our secret fjord technology. Our first order of business was to arrest the Swedish Chef for his serious culinary crimes. It just wasn't right to allow such actions to continue! You may rest easy knowing your food supply is safe.

With the "hints" you and maurice were giving who else could you be claiming to me. Technically neither you nor maurice have been "confirmed" either.

Someone want to tell me what I should have done once this is over? Hoping the baddies didn't see everything I did seems too naive. Chance for an individual goodie to miss something seems greater. I'm surprized that you would focus more on me Molly then all the "clues" that were way too limiting. Isn't that what you all were hoping to get from pressuring people on D1? Here is all the info gathered. Heck Molly, I could even have been lying about knowing you were Spain and just made a very educated guess.

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@Molly - Why else would Hirkala care about the Australia spy result? If it was a baddie then he would have picked you for the target when Maurice offered to vote with him. If it was a goodie then it wouldn't matter what the spy result was. Out of curiousity, who did you target for the message and what message did you try to send?

For the record: Vine, Hirkala, Maurice, Golf and Thalia outed their own role. (Assuming Golf and Thalia weren't lying) The hints given were too limiting. --- Molly is claiming Spain. As I see it the only person that can counter that is Solman or a goodie admitting to receiving a message from Spain and someone else claiming Spain. --- @Molly, sorry but with Australia dead I wouldn't get any more info I could use to show I had sided with the goodies. Being added to the Australia list was my reward for picking UN. I didn't ask soon enough if I would still get messages if England inherited. The direction Hirkala looked to be going would make knowing you were spied as Spain meaningless.

Knowing USA's RID attempt, if Germany guessed at the NK carrier and who Israel redirected Marq to would be helpful. Baddies have to be wondering how the RID Kill, Save, Redirect, Trap and Arrest are going to fall. If we can narrow down the baddies better then they won't be able to achieve anything tonight.

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