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Host: Aaryan 1. TheCube - voting for Thalia 2. Hidden G - voting for maurice 3. Flamebirde - voting for maurice 4. Shadow - voting for maurice 5. Thalia- not voting unless something huge comes up 7. Auramyna - voting for maurice 8. maurice - voting for flamebirde 9. Molly Mae - voting for maurice A. curr3nt - not voting B.(Other)Medji - voting for maurice DEAD: 6.Anon26 - disintegrated by Serpine Adding Hidden G's vote per request. Changing Aura's vote per request. Hidden G/Aura, please verify.

No one knows. That is one of life's great mysteries.

Not sure he had much choice other than not saying anything.

You are killing me flamebirde... I posted those questions as examples you shouldn't have answered either of them let alone both of them.

Shadow claimed a follow spy on maurice. Maurice admitted he targeted Molly Mae and Shadow hasn't corrected that. Only three roles have night actions that could have targeted Molly. Cleaver, Tome and Ghastly. He claims he gave three hints in the first set of posts I linked of his and that they support him. I found "speaks to me" and bicycle => spokes which would lead to Ghastly Bespokes. Ghastly is the only goodie role he could claim. I'm countering that claim.

By your reasoning all goodies should out themselves D1. Since the goodie handicap is lack of info then we should just do a data dump. With only Anon dead there will be at least two roles being claimed by more than one person. (Or one role claimed by three) We could narrow down two of the baddies to within four people. The question is should we play that way? I'm of the opinion that some logic should be used. Not everyone hint at your role and see who can figure out the most hints. I don't know how I feel about Shadow outing herself but I can understand it. She got a good result from the spy. She also has a second person that knows who she is and that result too. Hard for the baddies to bluff against that. maurice straight up gave his target. I felt I needed to out myself too to support and my focus on maurice wasn't doing a good job of hinting that maurice isn't the one goodie he could be. I'm also in a good position to defend my claim. Should either of us have gone as far as we did?

OK Aura I have an accusation for you. I think that might be your dog that you have as your avatar. Is it?

I was just throwing out ideas with the gender and group questions. Make up your own questions. Whatever questions that will help you fill out your spreadsheet.

Oh sorry, Aura did give a reason. Defend against that!

You want people to contribute then ask them specific questions. Perhaps all the pressure role outing would stop if accusers actually asked questions the defender could respond to. As it stands you've already forgotten or never read that Aura and maurice just voted for flamebirde without comment. Maurice's reason... Aura's reason... ----- Hidden G, pretend they were voting for you the same way. What would you say? You better hurry, flamebirde just logged in and is questioning why you haven't given a good defense yet. Pressure is on!! You need to defend... What are you going to say?

Did you notice the accusations against flamebirde? There was nothing for him to defend against. ----- Is asking character gender too limiting then how about... Pick one group that your character is in. Group A Group B Group C Group D Skull Skull Skull Tanith Ghastly Ghastly Ghastly Eachen Tanith Bliss Tanith Bliss Eachen China Eachen China Bliss Steph Steph Steph China Morwenna Morwenna Morwenna I'm in Group B.

I don't know who the heck flamebirde is. I'm objecting to your's and other's random voting and flamebirde is just your current target. Do you have a spreadsheet? What question can you ask him that would narrow down his role for you? You just hoping he will out himself for you to make it easy? You want a defense then give him something to defend. You want answers then ask him questions.

How about everyone tell us your character gender for D1 info gathering? My character is male.

Hidden G, you do realize I'm countering maurice's 33% chance to be a goodie? ----- Flamebirde, did you calculate the chance anything you say other than outing yourself will be accepted as a good enough defense? Maybe the people voting for you without reason could come up with questions or accusations instead of just "defend yourself". They want you to narrow down your role? Oh, maybe you could tell us your character's gender. Males Skulduggery Ghastly Bliss Eachen Females Stephanie Tanith China Morwenna That would narrow down your role without outing yourself. Shadow's character could be male or female and I'm male. So saying male would narrow you down to three roles and female would narrow you down to four. Take into consideration the baddie spy and you might be narrowed down to two male or three female. Goodies with a like gender would have you narrowed down more. The goodie spies could narrow you down by either gender. Assuming you aren't a baddie of course. How about you voters that want a defense ask your own darn questions? If you are going to put out weak accusations then expect weak defenses.

You might want to list what you want maurice to clarify then.

Does anyone have reference to a Mafia where random D1 voting without using night actions as support resulted in a baddie lynch? If so, how often does it happen? You get upset with me or find me to be acting suspicious/strange then fine, lynch me. When you find out I was telling the truth you will have your baddie target. RID Kill might work, if not you can lynch maurice D2.

How am I strange? I'm a little annoyed that nothing has changed. Everyone's idea of day pressure is random votes to get people to out themselves. Aura described it as subtle hints towards your role. That is either outing or WIFOM if you lie about your hints. Why isn't anyone else putting actions together to trap people. ----- Shadow trapped maurice to three roles two of them bad and I'm countering the only goodie role. I'm countering because that means maurice is bad and because I believe I have a decent defense. Per the block I could only be one of the baddies and by countering I would be risking the x3 vote the baddies have. Also based upon which baddie maurice is we might have a possible Nefarian. I want to talk about it now to get everything cleared up early so there isn't any last minute questions or lost votes due to timezones. With two goodie roles already outed I would like to prevent more unless it gets us a very good shot at another baddie. Unless you can tell me how random voting to get people to "talk" that have no one to vouch for them will help you find baddies...what is the purpose? ----- And just read Thalia's comment. I was being sarcastic, sorry.

So who else wants to out more goodies instead?

psst Hidden G. I'm fishing for baddies that might want to get people to forget/confuse the issue or wait for instructions from BTSC. This is one way to get info without requiring goodies to out themself.

Why can't we talk about it now and visit others after? What are you confused about?

So, anyone have thoughts on which of maurice and I are the baddie?

I thought Cube was voting with maurice but maurice was on Shadow and Cube was on Thalia. Was commenting on my idea that knowing which baddie maurice was might tell us who Molly was. I thought it was odd that it looked like Cube was covering for Molly.

He is fishing, hoping you will out yourself. No, she was suggesting that you read up on your character so that you could type something that everyone could then go to the wiki to figure out who you are.

What exactly do you want everyone to say? Do you want to out everyone on D1? Molly's response...was blocked by the baddies so either Nefarian, Cleaver, Tanith, Ghastly, the other goodie spy, or a goodie without a night action. Do the goodies really care which goodie he is? I only care which baddie he could be. I think knowing which baddie Maurice is would tell us. If Maurice is Cleaver then there is a chance he is Nefarian. If Maurice is Tome then Molly is a goodie. What more do you want to hear from him? ----- Flamebirde didn't show up as a target in the NP and one of the goodie spies told us they don't know anything about him. All he could tell us are vague/subtle hints to narrow down his role. Since there is no one that could vouch for him unless he is the other goodie spy...what's the real point? If he tells the truth then that is another outing. If he lies then he could be in trouble with a counter which would out another goodie.

Talking, speaks to you and spokes of a bicycle? There is a reason I jumped on you once I knew who you targeted. Which baddie are you? ----- Two goodie roles outed. 5 unknown to the baddies unless they spied Shadow or I already. They likely have a 3/5 or 2/5 chance of hitting one of the three depending on who Anon was. Think that is enough D1 info gathering? Either maurice or I is a baddie so can we go from there? ----- Because of the Night Post if I am a baddie you know I must be Nefarian. So if maurice is telling the truth then I'm an easy RID Kill. We don't know which baddie Maurice is. Likely White Cleaver but they could have trapped/spied Molly to role claim after N2. So if I'm lynched and proven to be a goodie then Maurice is an iffy RID Kill. ----- I'm leaving my no voting as it is. It's up to you all to determine which of us you want to lynch.