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if you get hit with the tie lynch Hirkala I'm sorry. I was waiting for the baddies to do this but apparently didn't act fast enough.

Does the day end at a fixed time or when the host says it ends?

Host: maurice 1. Blablah - dead, outdrawn by Johnny Ringo 2. MollyMae - shooting @ OboePassion 3. Oboe Passion - shooting @ Hirkala 4. Hirkala - shooting @ curr3nt 5. curr3nt - shooting @ Araver 6. slick - shooting @ onetruth 7. onetruth - shooting @ Vine 8. Vineetrika - shooting @ Panther 9. Panther - shooting @ benjer 10. benjer 11. EDM - shooting @ Araver 12. Araver - shooting @ Hirkala 13. Glycereine - shooting @ young scientist 14. young - shooting @ MollyMae If you turn out good I am sorry

BOWLS

I hope someone else has an idea after this because I only promise to deliver one crazy idea per game.

There goes the goodie spy scenerio. Not a bad thing since I am not sure the goodies want their spies outed yet.

Ike acted N1 so they couldn't have killed him themselves just to mess with us. (Ike blocked Slick) Do the baddies have much choice then follow along and try to get the goodies to break? I think the EDM/Molly situation is their play at disruption. ----- Something for the goodies to consider. There is another scenerio that could happen that I didn't mention. With the shots spread out, if a goodie spy found a baddie they can force a tie against lynching two baddies. A chance to get a non-Ike baddie and repeat this D2. Only mentioning this now because if EDM is a goodie spy the baddies will already know what she is doing. If EDM is not a goodie spy then we are back to baddies switching vote and outing themselves. Any proof, either way, will come with the lynch.

Goodies, please do not switch your votes or let any baddies talk you into switching your votes. Again, we know there is a chance a goodie will be lynched but if that happens we want to know that who did it. A goodie lynch because of unconfirmable suspicion will give us nothing.

If benjer has read the forums he has done so as a guest. He could be reading but he wouldn't be able to access baddie BTSC without logging in. Has anyone seen any games where the baddies made a BTSC outside this site's private messaging? Panther has accessed the site since N1 ended but hasn't done anything. Is he going to try saying he checked the site but didn't bother reading this thread? If MollyMae is lynched and is found to be a goodie then we go after EDM. He will out himself if his target is the one to be lynched and he was the only one voting for them.

I know it might seem bad being the one focused on but the goodies need to stand their ground for this to work. benjer - Last Active: Jan 30 2011 10:34 PM panther - Last Active: Today, 02:58 AM Unless the baddie BTSC has a way to talk to benjer in real life he is inactive. Panther is playing at inactive.

@Everyone, we knew one of the options was for the baddies to switch votes to lynch a goodie. When a goodie gets lynched whoever switched their vote to that person will be a baddie. As long as Ike stays alive we can keep doing this to flush the baddies out. This is only my second game but it seems that D1 a goodie is usually lynched because the baddies talk us into ganging up on someone. Unlike other games this one has a baddie that is easier to lynch. We do not have to "put pressure" on people to make them talk yet. This game we get to play chicken with the baddies and see if they break. Once Ike is dead we can go back to the normal finger pointing. Hopefully, the goodie spies will have more information by then.

Only way for Doc to come into play is if Billy Clanton is above him and Billy forces a tie to him and Ike. edit - or we get a baddie/inactive above Ike. In that case ... Maurice, does Doc get included in randomization only if he doesn't send in a "do not fire" list? What happens if there is only one shooter and Doc removes that one shooter? What happens if Wyatt's vote mod targets Billy Clanton's vote mod? This is only if Billy Clanton happens to be above Doc for voting. Depending on maurice's answer, Wyatt could mod the vote above Doc to x0. Doc would be outed to the baddie's if above is Billy but he would still be alive. If it is not Billy voting for Doc then the x0 mod would not out Doc.

Please consider what I posted I think we have a chance to flush out a baddie if we spread out the votes.

Host: maurice 1. Blablah - dead, outdrawn by Johnny Ringo 2. MollyMae 3. Oboe Passion 4. Hirkala 5. curr3nt - vote for slick 6. slick 7. onetruth 8. Vineetrika 9. Panther 10. benjer 11. EDM 12. Araver 13. Glycereine 14. young Vote for slick per plan. See post 17 and page 2 for details. Nothing personal slick.

post and maurice arrives!

Did you just save a ton of money on your car insurance by switching to the GECKO? GET OUT OF MY HEAD MAURICE!!!!

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I suppose. edit - fixing emoticon

I didn't miss that. For this not to work the person above Ike would have to be inactive/baddie. Anyone else inactive would not effect it. They would not trust me for suggesting an idea that could out a baddie? We still have the night to get through. I just wanted to suggest this now just in case. It is dependant on goodie buy in and activity. Can you point to the game where this failed?

BELCH

TWEED

In case I get killed N1. Suggested strategy D1: Everyone vote for the person below you. Ike Clanton is a coward and takes one fewer votes to kill than anyone else. So if everyone has one vote on them he will be the one lynched since he starts with one vote. ----- How the Cowboys can try to prevent this: 1. Billy Clanton can try to modify his shot. 25% it is x0 which means Ike is lynched. 75% it is a x2 and a tie vote occurs. 50% chance a goodie is randomly lynched. If a goodie is lynched then the one that voted for the goodie is Billy Clanton and goodies can kill him or lynch him the next day. 50% Ike is lynched anyways. 2. Baddies could switch votes to lynch someone. Person that switched would be a baddie and can be killed or lynched. Shortfalls: Baddies would be need the person above Ike to be inactive or a baddie and not vote. In this case we could investigate that person. No telling how the Indy might work this. Wyatt would need to not use his vote modifier. ----- If a goodie is lynched then at least a baddie will be flushed out too. I believe this might be better than a random lynching that could hit a goodie without providing any information. Please comment if you think I missed something.

@araver - I liked that movie but I liked Inigo Montoya much more than Vizzini. Never seen the abbreviation WIPOM but I now need to find a way to use it in conversation... I also figure my chances of dying N1 or being lynched D1 are about the same regardless of what I say. Araver thinks the baddies might want to talk to gather information so try not to say anything they might find useful. They already know who isn't a baddie so they are already a step ahead. Also, I thought Mafia was a mind game. I want to make the baddies work for a win, not sit back picking us off.

@araver - What do you suggest then for the Lawmen? Wyatt and Doc do not have a spy action to increase the known goodie size. Goodie spy actions won't be in the night post to provide clues to the rest. If we drop clues without outing ourselves then we can force the baddies to drop clues. (Or else they remain silent and become noticable that way) We then just need to find someone lying to start tracking the cowboys down. Silence is most helpful to the cowboys. Unless we get really lucky the Cowboys are going to kill one of us regardless of what we do or do not say.