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bah this is a silly thread, but im bored ok NP to to use the infinite speed thing it would only work if you accelrated at infinite m/s2 or else the time it takes you to get to the infinite speed will already make it slower than 60km/h now that kind of acceleration will instantly pankake well pretty much anything so you would arrive a corpse, of course there wouldnt even be a coprse left but you get my drift. only teleportation could make this work.

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Dawh very good points about anarchy, was goona make them myself escpecially the money one. You beat me to it so ill just say: I agree with your post. except the no govt working 500 years go bit. No govt can work only on a very small scale such as a village. Beyond the point where a population grows so big people dont really know About the electoral college, well being canadian we have a completely different system so ill let you americans thrash that one about. I prefer our system personally, not perfect but well seems to work better. UTF: Why is it your garden? With no govt. there are no laws including property laws. Is it yours just because you said so? What if I disagree and say nope its mine? what do we do then? eventually these kind of problems will lead to violence. No govt means no roads no garbage colection no laws no police no regulation of any kind. As to the not paying taxes on the war bit. ok lets say you dont pay them. how do you insure the govt doesnt spend that money on the war and instead just cuts pack on say medicare instead?

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UTF youem to be saying that you are a pacifist not an anarchist. GAWD i hate these debates on meanings of words. I will use the dictionary definiton of anarchy.

UTF yup i think anyone who thinks anarchy is good is a jerk as they are thinking only of themselves. If we have no govt we have no police no police means i can take a gun and shoot you take your stuff and thats that all mine game over for you no consequences for me! roads food slavery?? apples oranges and anarchists none of it goes together. your right i cant take your education but in an anarchistic society you dont get any unless you pay or rather unless your parents decide to pay for it. cause as a child you cannot earn money untill you old enough to have some sort of usefull skill. there being no govt to make chilkd labor laws. the stuff about going to hell is the same thing that makes communism fail. Anarchy and communism assume FALSLEY that all people will work to the betterment of others even if in the short term it is to their detriment. SORRY IT DONT HAPPEN! take away rules and laws and such eventually it becomes kill or be killed. at least untill some enlightend peopel reinstitute laws and some for of govt. People arent inherently evil most the vast majority I believe are good. But if you place people in a world where someone with a gun can do what they want the bad peopel will eventually force the good people to act liek them or lose everything. please read lord of the flies. Sorry you dont liek wars neither do i but seriously if not wanting to pay taxes for a war you dont liek is your strongest arguement just move to another country that isnt at war. worked for those peopel who moved tothe falkands (yeah cheap jab i know what ya want its saturday night and im sitting at a puter) Those are estimates after the fact. youre saying the govt goes to war then afterwards when you see the price you can say no thanx? What im saying is anarchy will ead to haiti where people do poitn guns at each other kids dotn get educated etc. personally I would prefer no one uses guns but that is being unrealistic and utopic. Given the choice i would rather have the guns in hands of peopel who follow a set of rules that are defined and as needed modified by a govt structure and that that govt can be changed by a democratic process. Like winnie said it isnt the wost possible system except when compared to all others. Yes i would liek to pay no taxes or even less. Yes I would like ther to be less govt waste etc but to think that letting people decide what taxes they will pay would lead to a better world is compeltely unrealistic, It would lead to the total shut down of govt and the decay of the countries infrastrure incease gang activity once the cops are all gone, disease once the garbage stays in the street illiteracy as schools close etc. ALL THIS WILL HAPPEN if you let people decide what taxes they can pay because pretty soon people will stop paying all taxes and then all these govt servces will cease. gvg if you litter you can damage the enviroment and make unsanitary conditions that can negatively affect me. If you dont vote well then you are just irrelevant. not the same Ill say it again go for the carrot forget the stick. you havent given me one good reason the stick is better than the carrot. wanna vote get a tax break dont wanna vote dont get it. simple no pain for those who dont vote as it is invisible to them well except for UTF he dotn pay taxes

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UTF you claim to have a house, they wont kidnap you they will just take the house from you. Sorry but you are using the govt for free. govt provides roads you use em?? you pay why should i pay taxes to pave a road you use?? no sense. now if no one builds roads then good bye grocery stores. food and goods, cant get to em, unless of course private roads are built and only those that pay can use em. but how dare you even think of walking on that private road! the list of examples go on forever. garbage nah ill just throw it out back untill my back yard becomes a festering cesspool that makes you sick and kills you. Too bad for you its my yard ill do what i want, you can go to H**L. My point is there are some things we need govt to do. If no either they will be distributed very unevenly and their use restrcted or they wont get done. roads garbage police firemen are the most obvious example. Yes govt has never worked well but lack of govt has never worked at all. its a lesser of two evils situation. as to the portion of the war how do you calculate that? where do you get your numbers from? sorry the govvt isnt even sure how much it has actually cost them. Yeah i'm going overboard here a bit but your arguements make no sense it leads to a total breakdown of society, go visit haiti to see a place where govt is non existant. Anarchy doesnt work it is a pipe dream if one guy lives liek that he is just a jerk if everyone does society breaks down. gvg: please drop the stick idea, the carrot approach is much much better, though i dont think either case will increase INFORMED voter turnout at least one way is not harming people

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several problems with this. How do you distinguish what part of your taxes go to the war? Why would the govt shoot you, unless you start shooting at them, or at least threaten to? But again devils advocate: I dont need roads as i walk everywhere. I wont pay those taxes. I dont need fire dept because I live in a stone building. I wont pay those taxes I dont need police as I have a dog. I wont pay those taxes I dont believe in welfare. I wont pay those taxes I dont believe in the military. I wont pay those taxes I dont believe we should create waste (recycel ppl). I wont pay those garbage taxes See where this is going? nope! an·ar·chist   /ˈænərkɪst/ Show Spelled [an-er-kist] Show IPA –noun 1. a person who advocates or believes in anarchy or anarchism. 2. a person who seeks to overturn by violence all constituted forms and institutions of society and government, with no purpose of establishing any other system of order in the place of that destroyed. 3. a person who promotes disorder or excites revolt against any established rule, law, or custom. That is the definition of an anarchist. Fundamentally anarchy is a society without govt. problem is govt is necessary for certain things. Who will make/maintain roads? who will clean up the garbage? who will enforce the rule of law? (ok technically if no govt ther is no law but you get the point) GVG I disagree with fines and penalties, a reward such as a small tax break would be a better way to go. If you place fines, people will not necessarily learn anything about the issues, they will just go vote. An uninformed vote is far far worse than not voting. Besides how do you fine a poor person for not voting? seems wrong. We pay people for doing their civic duty when they are slected for jury duty. Seems to me voting is also a civic duty and could be compensated as well (again meagerly such as jury duty). I dont want people to vote only for financial gain or to avoid financial loss.

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