[Guest]

Baddies:

Wins by killing all the innocents

Bowser: Wants to get revenge on Mario by stealing his teammates. Can steal an innocent by successfully RIDing them each night he may try to RID an innocent

Wario: Mario's evil twin. The fattest Mario villan. He is invincible durning nights. Wins if he survives past Day 3

Waluigi: Luigi's evil twin. Skinny and slippery. Can spy a person each night. Wins if the Baddies kill Luigi

Innocents:

Wins by killing all the baddies

Mario: Knows lots of secrets about killing and saving. Can kill every even night. Cannot die night 1

Luigi: Shares the secrets of saving with Mario. Can save every odd night.

Peach: Can distract people with her beauty. Can stop a person from their action every night

Daisy: Helps with the counting of the votes but sometimes messes them up. Her vote counts as x2.

Toad: He is kind to a lot of people. If he can successfully RID someone each day from the lynch that person is saved.

Yoshi: Can ask the host to roll a dice. If the host rolls a one Yoshi can kill someone for the night. If the host rolls a 2 Yoshi can save someone for the night. If the host rolls a 3 then Yoshi can spy someone. If the host rolls a 4 then Yoshi can steal someone’s role. If the host rolls a 5 then Yoshi does nothing. If the host rolls a 6 then Yoshi can choose from either killing, saving, spying or stealing someone’s role.

Independents:

Wins by their specified win condition

Donkey Kong: He is very ferocious. Can kill every night. Wins if Mario, Bowser and Yoshi are dead.

Unsided

Baby Mario: Likes to be like other people. Chooses a team to join at the beginning of the game *Innocents or Baddies* Once they choose their team they take the role of the first team member to die. Wins with their team

Baby Luigi: Is similar to Baby Mario, except he has to be on the oppisite team as Baby Mario. Wins with their team

Ok my comp is sort of malfunctioning so I will fix everything soon

Hosts: Limey and GMaster

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12 people 3 baddies 6 innocents 1 independent 2 unsided

[Gmaster479]

Just wanted to ask a few questions and point out a few things.

1) Do the baddies have BTSC?

2) Can the baddies kill each night?

3) Can Bowser recruit every night? Or just once successfully?

It says that there are 12 people: 3 baddies 6 innocents 1 independent 2 unsided

However the unsided roles are pretty much just one more innocent and one more baddie. Making it 4 baddies, 7 innocents, and 1 Indy to start.

And then again, because Waluigi can spy each night PLUS Bowser can recruit someone (for the sake of this explanation, I will assume that he can only recruit once) the recruitment will be a 100% success on the second night.

So the setup essentially makes it so that the game starts up as 4b/7i/1, but then after the N1 kill and spy it's 4b/6i/1. Assuming BEST case scenario for the innocents, a baddie is lynched on D1, making it 3b/6i/1. Then on night two there is a perfect recruitment PLUS a kill. Making it 5b/4i/1. So in the best case scenario for what the innocents can to (leaving out Mario killing blindly [though he could kill a baddie or a goodie so it's a wash], and Luigi getting lucky with a save [though the odds are against him so that's a wash], and DK killing [though DK would have two nights at nearly a 50/50 shot to kill one baddie and one innocent, so it's actually a wash also]. So none of those three things should even be taken into account) the baddies have a majority by Day 2 and win the game flat out without the innocents ever standing a chance.

Okay then, I'm not sure how this is working out exactly, but from what you are saying I think Bowser can recruit once successfully and that's it

Also they do haveBTSC and can kill every night. We may add another goodie now that i think about it but i'll wait on limey if he wants to do that

For ST:

2. Yes he is outed

3. Yes it is just an explanation of how he saves people

4. Yoshi can steal a role for the night and that person who he steals it from can't use it for the night. So he could steal Mario's role and kill someone or steal Wario's role and be safe from the baddies

5. Clues and hints are fine, just don't out yourself or there will be some consequences

LIMEY, PLEASE CHECK THESE ANSWERS

[Guest]

Questions for the hosts:

1) For Bowser, does that mean that if Limey was Mario and Bowser guessed right that night, Limey joins their BTSC team that night?

2) If Mario attempts to kill Wario in the night, how is it written in the night post? (Is Wario outed then?)

3) "Luigi: Shares the secrets of saving with Mario." Does this mean anything, or does it just explain how Luigi can save?

4) "If the host rolls a 4 then Yoshi can steal someone’s role." Say Yoshi steals Mario's, does Mario still have an action? Also, does Yoshi choose a player or a role? (since if he chooses a player, then he will know the player's role)

5) "You can reveal your role but you can't vote for the day and can't use any actions the following night" Are we still allowed to leave clues/hints, as long as we don't say "I am so-and-so"? Also, does this apply if you are not claiming your own role?

1) If Bowser recruits a for example on night 2 then the recruited goodie joins the BTSC on day 2

2) Yes he is outed

3) Luigi can only save each night

4) No if Yoshi steals Mario's action Mario can't act that night and Yoshi chooses a role

5) Yes you are aloud to hint

[Guest]

So the setup essentially makes it so that the game starts up as 4b/7i/1, but then after the N1 kill and spy it's 4b/6i/1. Assuming BEST case scenario for the innocents, a baddie is lynched on D1, making it 3b/6i/1. Then on night two there is a perfect recruitment PLUS a kill. Making it 5b/4i/1. So in the best case scenario for what the innocents can to (leaving out Mario killing blindly [though he could kill a baddie or a goodie so it's a wash], and Luigi getting lucky with a save [though the odds are against him so that's a wash], and DK killing [though DK would have two nights at nearly a 50/50 shot to kill one baddie and one innocent, so it's actually a wash also]. So none of those three things should even be taken into account) the baddies have a majority by Day 2 and win the game flat out without the innocents ever standing a chance.

We can change DK to an innocent and change a bit or we can say the baddies win if they kill all the inncoents if it makes happy Brandon

Current Roster:

Hosts: Limey and GMaster

1) tbaxatb

2) Marioman9

3) underground_dan

4) Magic

5) Clozo

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LIS, GMaster is more active than me and he is co-hosting *whistles*

Edited August 1, 2009 by limeliam

[Brandonb]

We can change DK to an innocent and change a bit or we can say the baddies win if they kill all the inncoents if it makes happy Brandon

I'm sorry, I'm just trying to inform you of a potentially massive imbalance so that you will make happy players (because once the baddies have majority at any point, there is nothing that can be done to prevent them from killing all the innocents, meaning the game is over when they gain a majority.)

[Gmaster479]

Baddies:

• Have BTSC
  
• Win by becoming the majority
  
• 1 RID Kill per night

Bowser: Wants to get revenge on Mario by stealing his teammates. Can steal an innocent by successfully RIDing them. Gets one RID guess per night and can only use this power once.

Wario: Mario's evil twin. The fattest Mario villan. He is invincible durning nights.

Waluigi: Luigi's evil twin. Skinny and slippery. Can spy a person each night.

Innocents:

Wins by killing all the baddies

Mario: Knows lots of secrets about killing and saving. Can kill every even night. Cannot die night 1. Has BTSC with Luigi

Luigi: Shares the secrets of saving with Mario. Can save every odd night. Has BTSC with Mario

Peach: Can distract people with her beauty. Can stop a person from their action every night

Daisy: Helps with the counting of the votes but sometimes messes them up. Her vote counts as x2.

Toad: He is kind to a lot of people. If he can successfully RID someone each day from the lynch that person is saved.

Yoshi: Can ask the host to roll a dice. If the host rolls a one Yoshi can kill someone for the night. If the host rolls a 2 Yoshi can save someone for the night. If the host rolls a 3 then Yoshi can spy someone. If the host rolls a 4 then Yoshi can steal someone’s role. If the host rolls a 5 then Yoshi does nothing. If the host rolls a 6 then Yoshi can choose from either killing, saving, spying or stealing someone’s role.

Birdo: With her giant tube-shaped mouth has a 1/3 chance of stealing a random night action from another player

Independent:

Wins by his specified win condition

Donkey Kong: He is very ferocious. Can kill every night. Wins if Mario, Bowser and Yoshi are dead before he is.

Unsided

Baby Mario: Likes to be like other people. Chooses a team to join at the beginning of the game *Innocents or Baddies* Once they choose their team they take the role of the first team member to die. Wins with their team

Baby Luigi: Is similar to Baby Mario, except he gets put on the oppisite team as Baby Mario. Wins with their team

Hosts: Limey and GMaster

1) tbaxatb

2) Marioman9

3) underground_dan

4) Magic

5) Clozo

6) ST

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9) Music

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13 people 3 baddies 7 innocents 1 independent 2 unsided

Okay here we go, any questions about the revised roster?

Edited August 2, 2009 by Gmaster479

[Guest]

So in the event DK dies then Mario Bowser and Yoshi die, he still wins? Or if he dies after they do?

[Gmaster479]

So in the event DK dies then Mario Bowser and Yoshi die, he still wins? Or if he dies after they do?

No he has to be alive as well. I changed it. Thanks music

[Guest]

Baddies:

• Have BTSC
  
• Win by becoming the majority
  
• 1 Kill per night

Bowser: Wants to get revenge on Mario by stealing his teammates. Can steal an innocent by successfully RIDing them. Gets one RID guess per night and can only use this power once.

Wario: Mario's evil twin. The fattest Mario villan. He is invincible durning nights.

Waluigi: Luigi's evil twin. Skinny and slippery. Can spy a person each night.

Innocents:

Wins by killing all the baddies

Mario: Knows lots of secrets about killing and saving. Can kill every even night. Cannot die night 1. Has BTSC with Luigi

Luigi: Shares the secrets of saving with Mario. Can save every odd night. Has BTSC with Mario

Peach: Can distract people with her beauty. Can stop a person from their action every night

Daisy: Helps with the counting of the votes but sometimes messes them up. Her vote counts as x2.

Toad: He is kind to a lot of people. If he can successfully RID someone each day from the lynch that person is saved.

Yoshi: Can ask the host to roll a dice. If the host rolls a one Yoshi can kill someone for the night. If the host rolls a 2 Yoshi can save someone for the night. If the host rolls a 3 then Yoshi can spy someone. If the host rolls a 4 then Yoshi can steal someone’s role. If the host rolls a 5 then Yoshi does nothing. If the host rolls a 6 then Yoshi can choose from either killing, saving, spying or stealing someone’s role.

Birdo: With her giant tube-shaped mouth has a 1/3 chance of stealing a random night action from another player

Independent:

Wins by his specified win condition

Donkey Kong: He is very ferocious. Can kill every night. Wins if Mario, Bowser and Yoshi are dead before DK

Unsided

Baby Mario: Likes to be like other people. Chooses a team to join at the beginning of the game *Innocents or Baddies* Once they choose their team they take the role of the first team member to die. Wins with their team

Baby Luigi: Is similar to Baby Mario, except he gets put on the oppisite team as Baby Mario. Wins with their team

Hosts: Limey and GMaster

1) tbaxatb

2) Marioman9

3) underground_dan

4) Magic

5) Clozo

6) ST

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9) Music

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13 people 3 baddies 7 innocents 1 independent 2 unsided

Okay here we go, any questions about the revised roster?

Edited August 2, 2009 by limeliam

[Guest]

Can you please change that blue font color? It kind of hurts. Didn't we go through this in the Murder Club Mafia thing???

[Guest]

1 question:

About Birdo, does she know whose action she is stealing? For example, she gets Mario's. Does she know who Mario is?

[Gmaster479]

No she steals a random action. She will be told you have stolen Mario's action but won't know who Mario is. I wrote it specifically so that she couldn't find out

[Guest]

So with Birdo, the action just doesn't happen? Or can she choose who to use it on?

[Gmaster479]

So with Birdo, the action just doesn't happen? Or can she choose who to use it on?

She steals it and uses it. It still happens but she is the one doing it and if it is a killing/blocking role it will be her shown as doing it

[Guest]

Hmm...Mario Bros. themed mafia...Guess I'll give it a go.

Hosts: Limey and GMaster

1) tbaxatb

2) Marioman9

3) underground_dan

4) Magic

5) Clozo

6) ST

7) Marth

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[Guest]

Hmm...Mario Bros. themed mafia...Guess I'll give it a go.

Hosts: Limey and GMaster

1) tbaxatb

2) Marioman9

3) underground_dan

4) Magic

5) Clozo

6) ST

7) Marth

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Cool! Thanks Marth! Only 5 more

[Guest]

Cool! Thanks Marth! Only 5 more

Have you tried PMing some regular mafia players to see if you can get some of them to join in?

[Gmaster479]

I kind of figure that we will get ppl after more die off in Murder club Mafia. I'll pm those guys when they kick the bucket

[Guest]

Have you tried PMing some regular mafia players to see if you can get some of them to join in?

Sure I guess we can do that

[akaslickster]

Hosts: Limey and GMaster

1) tbaxatb

2) Marioman9

3) underground_dan

4) Magic

5) Clozo

6) ST

7) Marth

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9) Music

10)akaslickster

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Because on a scale, that is my rank. Hee... Hee.......

[Guest]

Anyone Else?

[akaslickster]

Anyone Else?

That depends. I can get veteran players, or are you interested in noobs as well?

[Guest]

Hosts: Limey and GMaster

1) tbaxatb

2) Marioman9

3) underground_dan

4) Magic

5) Clozo

6) ST

7) Marth

8) Rir

9) Music

10)akaslickster

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Only because your Kat's bro... but im not sure how active i can be, depends on when this starts

[Guest]

Just so I can start one later, hopefully sooner rather than later.

I forgot who ST is - the Saint?

Hosts: Limey and GMaster

1) tbaxatb

2) Marioman9

3) underground_dan

4) Magic

5) Clozo

6) ST

7) Marth

8) Rir

9) Music

10)akaslickster

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[Gmaster479]

ummm, star_tiger i think

and if u want to host a mafia, you can take that spot in between scsw's FM2 and my HSM2. I think that is how it will work out

[Guest]

I forgot who ST is - the Saint?

Aww...thanks

2 more to go!