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(I've tried "search" and I've looked over the various forums, and I can't find examples of this. I'm sorry if I've duplicated a post.)

I like BUTTER but I don't like GOATS

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For people who haven't played this game, here's how it works in general:

First, the OP makes a statement of the form "I like xxxx but I don't like yyyy".

Then, players ask questions.

You can ask, "Do you like zzz?"

--the OP will answer "Yes, I like zzz" or "No, I don't like zzz"

--if the OP wants to show off his/her erudition and/or quick thinking, he/she will answer as much as possible with something like "Yes, I like zzz, but I don't like www" or "No, I don't like zzz, but I DO like www"

If a player wants to show off how well they understand the OP's rule, their query might take the form,

"I bet you like qqq" or

"I bet you don't like qqq"

The OP will answer as before.

If a player wants to guess THE RULE, he/she should put it in a spoiler. If it's wrong, the OP will expose the guess, along with a counterexample. If it's right, the OP will congratulate the player, and announce that the rule is now known. (Might leave the game in play, I suppose. How do you folks do this in MasterWord?

I see that in Masterword, the OP's responses contain all past queries and answers. That seems very humane. That should probably be done here, too.

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Sorry everyone, long weekend. Thank you CaptainEd for your support/reminder :D

I like HOT but I don't like CUTE

I like ASTEROIDS and even MOONS but I don't like PLANETS

I like BREAD but I don't like PEANUT BUTTER

I like DELIS but I don't like CHEESE

I like UNDERWEAR but I don't like BRIEFS

I like DAY but I don't like NIGHT

I like APRIL but I don't like FEBRUARY

I like BOARD but I don't like CHESS

I like BEETS but I don't like CARROTS

I like ZEBRA but I don't like LION

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It's easy to overthink in this game. I've been doing it for days, and getting nowhere. Here are rules that don't work:

* vowel quality (long, short, diphthong)--all are present on both sides (ie. on both "like" and "don't like")

* syllable structure (open vs. closed)--all are present on both sides

* vowel choice--several are present on both sides

* vowel sorting (e.g. "facetious")--several patterns on both sides

* consonant sorting--several patterns on both sides

* syllable count--mono- and poly-syllabics on both sides

* number of letters--3s, 4s, and 5s on both sides

* number of phonemes--3s, 4s, and 5s on both sides

* fraction of vowel letters--most likes are less than 44%, most dislikes greater than 44%, BUT some dislikes less than 33%

* consonant class (stop, fricative, liquid, nasal, affricate)--each kind on each side

* consonant voicing (voiced vs. voiceless)--each kind on each side

* first/last letter sorting (ie. first letter earlier in alphabet than last letter)--some words go up, some down, on both sides

* choice of first letters--this one was close, likes (habduabzm) / dislikes (cpbnfl), the sets are disjoint EXCEPT for "b"

* choice of last letters--not even close, several final letters are liked and disliked

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Captain Ed,

This rule is very tricky, but the number of letters on the 'like' side is key and I'm am shocked that you overlooked it. It only gives you part of the answer but it can help

I like FETTUCINE but I don't like ALFREDO

I like HOT but I don't like CUTE

I like ASTEROIDS and even MOONS but I don't like PLANETS

I like BREAD but I don't like PEANUT BUTTER

I like DELIS but I don't like CHEESE

I like UNDERWEAR but I don't like BRIEFS

I like DAY but I don't like NIGHT

I like APRIL but I don't like FEBRUARY

I like BOARD but I don't like CHESS

I like BEETS but I don't like CARROTS

I like ZEBRA but I don't like LION

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Captain Ed,

This rule is very tricky, but the number of letters on the 'like' side is key and I'm am shocked that you overlooked it. It only gives you part of the answer but it can help

I like FETTUCINE but I don't like ALFREDO

I like HOT but I don't like CUTE

I like ASTEROIDS and even MOONS but I don't like PLANETS

I like BREAD but I don't like PEANUT BUTTER

I like DELIS but I don't like CHEESE

I like UNDERWEAR but I don't like BRIEFS

I like DAY but I don't like NIGHT

I like APRIL but I don't like FEBRUARY

I like BOARD but I don't like CHESS

I like BEETS but I don't like CARROTS

I like ZEBRA but I don't like LION

Well, now that you mention it, it's true that there are only odd length words on the Like side (I had reported evens, but I was wrong). And, as you said, that's not the whole story, as there are a couple of odd length words on the Dislike side, so I have to understand how they're different.

It's certainly an interesting rule...still mulling

OK,

you like a word with odd number of letters, UNLESS it contains an H.

edit: Oh, now I've seen AI's rule guess--I like it better

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Getting warmer but still you have a long way to go guys.

I like DINOSAURS but I don't like TRICERITOPS

I like FETTUCINE but I don't like ALFREDO

I like HOT but I don't like CUTE

I like ASTEROIDS and even MOONS but I don't like PLANETS

I like BREAD but I don't like PEANUT BUTTER

I like DELIS but I don't like CHEESE

I like UNDERWEAR but I don't like BRIEFS

I like DAY but I don't like NIGHT

I like APRIL but I don't like FEBRUARY

I like BOARD but I don't like CHESS

I like BEETS but I don't like CARROTS

I like ZEBRA but I don't like LION

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(For A.I's guess) I like JONES but I don't like DIEGO

I like GOATS but I don't like BUTTER :P

I like DINOSAURS but I don't like TRICERITOPS

I like SMOKE but I don't like FIRE

I like FETTUCINE but I don't like ALFREDO

I like HOT but I don't like CUTE (This disproves your rule CaptainEd)

I like ASTEROIDS and even MOONS but I don't like PLANETS

I like BREAD but I don't like PEANUT BUTTER

I like DELIS but I don't like CHEESE

I like UNDERWEAR but I don't like BRIEFS

I like DAY but I don't like NIGHT

I like APRIL but I don't like FEBRUARY

I like BOARD but I don't like CHESS

I like BEETS but I don't like CARROTS

I like ZEBRA but I don't like LION

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Ok, I think I might be getting closer, but not quite there yet.

I think you like words that have exaclty one more consonant than vowels (i.e. the number of consonants in the word is exactly one greater than the number of vowels in the word.)

This rule fits all of the like words, and all except one of the dislike words. According to this rule, he should like ALFREDO, but he doesn't, so we might need to change the rule slightly for it to work.

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I bet you don't like alpha or omega, but you do like epsilon?

If so, then

You like odd length words, with exactly one more consonant than vowels, AS LONG AS that word does not have vowels at both ends. *whew* that's quite a rule.

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Correct on both accounts. Good job Grayven and A.I.

You are right I'm sorry about alfredo i had a limited number of choices of pasta :P

A.I or Grayven feel free to take the next one

No thanks. I got to go home and squeeze the baby.

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Correct on both accounts. Good job Grayven and A.I.

You are right I'm sorry about alfredo i had a limited number of choices of pasta :P

A.I or Grayven feel free to take the next one

I can't either. I'm kind of busy this weekend.

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You don't like words with the letter E

Nope sorry, it's a little more complex than that.

I like HELPING but I don't like AIDING

I like GOLF but I don't like HOCKEY

I like RIFTS but I don't like CRATERS

I like TRUCKS but I don't like JEEPS

I like MAIL but I don't like LETTERS

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