superprismatic Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Once in a while, one sees a column with a mathematical bent in a newspaper. More often than not, there's something that doesn't seem quite right about it. In the Chicago Tribune column found here, a claim is made that you could have purchased 10-year bonds with a 3% rate at the beginning of 2011, sold them at the end of 2011 (when similar 10-year bonds had a 2% rate), and made a profit of around 16% on your original investment. Can anyone offer any mathematical justification for this claim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 dyalDragon Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I can get a 15.4% profit, but I'm not sure I'm attacking the problem right.... I'm a H&W actuary, not Investment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 curr3nt Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 $1000 at 3% for 10 years comes out to about $1344 $1000 at 2% for 10 years comes out to about $1219 Instead of waiting 10 years for the $1344 you could sell it (to someone willing to wait) for $1160 after 1 year. There is a 16% gain. But $1160 at 2% is about $1386 at 9 years (removing one year since the 3% has 9 years left) which is $42 more than what you would get for buying the bond at 3%. Unless I totally do not understand (which is quite possible) it seems to be a loss. Then again I'm sure if you sold it right you could find a sucker willing to believe buying the 3% bond is a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 dyalDragon Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 a $10,000 10 year bond at 3% would cost roughly$7,441 initially. A year later you have received one 3% coupon for $223. You can sell the bond for the same price as a 9 year $10,000 bond at 2%, which is worth roughly $8,368. The profit would be $927 That makes your total profit $1,150, which is 15.45% of the original investment. It's been awhile since I have had to value a bond, though, so likely my memory of how to handle the situation has been muddled.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 plasmid Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 I think curr3nt and dD are essentially right, they're just omitting a bit of a fudge factor in the article -- it mentions bonds at the beginning of the year selling for "a little over 3 percent" and at the end of the year "just under 2 percent", and they may very well be rounding the return up to 16% from an actual value just over 15.5%. And all of that makes much more sense than the real estate market around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Once in a while, one sees a column with a mathematical bent in a newspaper. More often than not, there's
something that doesn't seem quite right about it. In the Chicago Tribune column found here,
a claim is made that you could have purchased 10-year bonds with a 3% rate at the beginning of 2011,
sold them at the end of 2011 (when similar 10-year bonds had a 2% rate), and made a profit of around
16% on your original investment. Can anyone offer any mathematical justification for this claim?
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