Yoruichi-san

Thanks for *finally* answering my question......I think Phaze was a QA due to the fact that UR said there was reason behind his suicidal behavior, and the only two roles that satisfy that criteria are the SB (but I think Tolecnal is telling the truth) and a QA trying to find the other QA...plus he kept asking the LP to confirm, trying to get the LP to out him/herself... So with GR dead (yay Frozen! ), the LP or just the P now, I guess, is vulnerable to the QAs, so finding the other one should be of concern (especially with the annoying Mafia messages silenced XP)...I had two suspects, but UR's info narrows it down to one... Anyways, as usual, I'm going to collect the evidence before naming the suspect...

Wait, Unreality, come back...I need you to answer my question... Can a QA target him/herself? Edit: Oh, and, haha, I guess no more threatening Ultimatums from the Mafia...

Hmmm...okay, I've thought of three possibilities why the Mafia are trying to get us to lynch Frost...the first and second would point to GC being a Mafioso and QA respectively and the last would point to the Mafia trying to clear one of their own...I wish I could elaborate, but in the case (which I now think is likely) that Frost is either the first or second possibilities...well, we need to protect him... And Frost, I'm glad my suspicions about you being the GR were wrong...

Okay, good work. And great work, Janitor/Ninja team! I like this coordination thing . But do the Yakuza know who the Mafia are? I thought the Mafia know the Yakuza, but not the other way around...and I don't see anything GC did that seemed especially Mafia-like... But I need my question about whether or not a QA can target him/herself before I can go further with my reasoning...

Hehe, that was BRILLIANT!!! You weren't kidding about your Awesomeness...;P

Gotta finish reading, but...I had a thought earlier... Question: Can a QA target themselves?

Whoa...just got back from watching The Dark Knight on the Imax...I'm dizzy...XP Wow...trying to read all of Phaze's posts...almost makes me with the GR would kill him already to shut him up... Speaking of which, we didn't hear back from Tolecnal? Well, I'm hoping UR's comments about the "epic ninja vs. GR" battle means the ninja managed to pick the GR... Edit: And wait, doesn't the GR dying have to revealed anyways, so that Lord Phoenix can turn into Phoenix or something...so there should be no problem with the epic fight scene...(which I'm excited to read ;P)

Actually, *I* was the one who said the Mafia wanted to take out the GR and the other baddies as well, since that is part of their win condition... But what was this about? Why would the Mafia target you more than some other Innocent who was against their plan? That's what shouted "SV" at me...>.< Edit: Clarification

Grrrr...omg, you better not play the noob card too But since you're finally back, I have a bone to pick with you...I was pretty sure you were acting like the SV, and that's why I backed down on your supporting of lynching Tolecnal (I thought "poor unfortunate SV")...and from the comments I don't think I was the only one...now that we know PG was the poor unfortunate SV...what in the world were you thinking???

Actually, going after me the last time (when you actually killed me XP) was a good idea...since you needed to get rid of the GR and you didn't know who she was...the easiest way was to kill the Ninja...especially if the Healer thought only the GR would go for me...what you didn't count on was CL going for Aizen the Yeti...;P

Okay, these two things make me think he may be a QA...trying to get the other QA to target him and trying to get the LP to come out with their role? He may just be playing the noob card like Mekal did last game...or he could really be crazy If CL was the LP, then the QAs got a lynch target, right? So then either it was LIS and they won or it wasn't and they lost and get mass-lynched...either way I think Unreality would have written it into the day post? I'm really worried about the GR at this point...if it's who I think it is, I think he may have seen other clues that I picked up on...

Yeah...to be fair, I think this whole Mafia Ultimatum thing was making a lot of players feel uneasy about what to do and not very into the game the first day...that's probably also why Bb seemed kind of defeated...

Results, Tolecnal?

*Sighs*

I like that one if it works...

Lol...that would make a very long night... How about "The Defender's death brings me close to my goal" or something?

Lol...Frost, I know you're more intelligent than that...;P Yeah, the Thief thing confuses me, but you *did* claim to believe LIS: And then when Dusty pulled ahead of LIS, you withdrew your vote to keep LIS on the chopping block...I don't see why anyone except the GR would do that... But I'm glad the Janitor/Ninja have BTSC...hopefully they can coordinate...I'm not absolutely sure, but I do think the Defender's death makes the GR threat the major one...

Wait, I thought Frame was for the Spy? Edit: *Sigh*...have to go back and read the [ridiculously] long rules again...

So with the Defender dead, I think first concern should be getting rid of the GR, and looking at the evidence, I think I have a good suspect: Okay, looking at the last vote, I thought it was weird how Frost claimed to believe LIS was the Defender, but after Dusty got ahead in votes, Frost withdrew his vote for Dusty to tie up the votes...only the GR would want to do that, to get rid of the Defender so the Ninja would be vulnerable... Plus, I noticed that he seems to very against the Mafia deal (as I thought the GR would be) and he seems to be trying to cover up the GR's tracks by arguing that the Mafia won't give up the real GR name...which he knows to be his own...;P...and that's pretty much his only argument against the Mafia deal... Also, the Thief usually steals from the same person the Godfather checks, and since the Thief used Steal and not Frame, and Steal doesn't work on the Spy anymore, it doesn't matter if the person they steal from is the GR...the Inspector would just get PMed the GR's name instead of the Thief's... And I know from Mafia IV how good Frost is on picking up on minor Ninja hints, and I've seen some dropped, although I don't know whether they're accurate or not...which is why I hoped the Healer/Doctor/Phoenix saw them too...

Unreality, you're a great host and totally have made these games really fun...if it wasn't for you I wouldn't have started playing these and hence would never have realized my full potential...;P But seriously, everyone gets stressed and angry and loud sometimes (including me the first time I played this game :/), and I agree, people shouldn't take it out on the host, but don't take it too seriously...we all love you... And also, it's *your* fault we're all addicted to this, so you can't quit now... Anyways, compiling some evidence for the Ninja and other Innocents...

Uh oh...Sorry, LIS...this timing thing sucks . And actually, I'm always kind of laid back on the first day...to gather information before I start the baddie hunt...and this one has been somewhat informative ;P Anyways, Healer/Doctor/Phoenix, I hope you realize who you have to protect...if not...I may have figured out who the Ninja should go after...have to get to a meeting, but I'll be back later and give you what I've got...

Well...since the Mafia were crafty enough to come up with the deal, they probably already figured out who the SV is... And, (no offense ) but LIS *always* acts "weird"...when he answers any of my puzzles I can never understand what he's talking about (although it's always hilarious ;P)...so I'm not jumping on the LIS bandwagon... ...grrr...I'm going to follow my tradition of not voting on the first day... ...oh, and Tolecnal, I know you want to survive, but *be careful*! You're suppose to be helping the Innocents, not trying so save your own skin... Gnite, all!

Edit: Okay. (Sorry, wasn't a nonsense post, I swear...keeping Tolecnal from making big mistake...)

Yeah...hmmm...there was more than one condition...and I think I know what you are... ;P

Yeah, that's true...but based on how crafty this initial proposal is, I don't think it's the end of it...like a blackmailer, always asking for more money...they will probably put some restrictions on the Ninja action as well, like "No killing" or something...I dunno...like you said, it's a "deal with the devil"... Plus I hate being told what to do (right, UR? )...