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On lofty peak or under wave I'm waiting for that fateful day When minors all come to play; pining for to slay. Couples in red lean on doors, poems read, calls to war, Mystic rhymes so abhorred, warning me of stay. Missiles launched in the air, rainbows rupture here and there, Drums burst and bang without a care, and lions dance away. Who am I?

Well that was fast d3. Was it really so obvious or do you have experience (like me) in that line of work?

Here's a re-write to smooth out some rough edges: ****************************************** From rocky beginning and a cumbersome haul A fisherman sports now crown and all. And bereft of good stock, waiting to fall Hang ample samples upon fortress walls. Lo! Hundreds of eyes—rode to its ring; Blindly its dark course then following. Smoking pipes, clashing, they brazenly sing: “Beware the bitter end ever to bring!” So shackled for life, with shots all along, The warrior one falls with arms apart strong. And a very deep throat so familiar with sound Knows well the dark hell of the wet, silent ground.

HA! That's funny! Incorrect but hilarious.

From rocky beginnings and a cumbersome haul A royal troller sports now a crown and all. And bereft of good stock, waiting to fall, Hang ample samples upon fortress walls. Lo! Hundreds of eyes—rode to the ring; Blindly his dark course swift following! Smoking pipes, clashing, they brazenly sing: “Beware the bitter end never to bring!” So shackled to colors and with shots all along Falls the warrior one with arms apart strong. And a very deep throat so familiar with sound Knows well the dark hell of that wet, silent ground.

Dwilly, well done!

Ahab, yes on all. You're on the right track. To all, I will be leaving town for a week for Lunar New Year Holiday and out of communication. I will leave you with . . . P.S. Thanks to whomever for the ratings. Bye!

Nope

Diddyuww: No. Nice guess. IDoNotExist: No, nothing to do with h - - - es. Solve this baby any way you like. Up to you. Crazypainter: No and No. I imagine you'll figure this out soon, as you're apparently good at this.

Graven, No. Not another poem. Un-given means never given (hyphen because I hate red lines under my words )

Thanks. Yeah, I write all myself. keep trying.

Very interesting and well thought out guess moonlesia. Incorrect however. (I like your moniker; how did you come up with it?)

I see some are still sailing down the nautical route. Beware misleading motifs! Stick to key words.

So far no one's come close, and that includes the "on the right track" querries. But some extremely interesting guesses. I would love to see the reasoning behind some. I can hear Graven's gears grinding and he may be onto something, though not very novel. I consider this my best to date so I don't want to give too much away by providing leading answers. Keep trying; you'll love the answer.

Wow BB, you're as stubborn as I am! Was it really necessary to dissect my "hyperbole," which actually has naught to do with my point? I'm not jaded in the least, but I certainly didn't appreciate your very rude suggestion that I am unintelligent simply because I took a different route with your riddle, which I actually like very much. This is a forum. You may have your own target audience, but all are welcome to respond I believe, hopefully without fear of demeaning rhetoric in return. At no point in your original post did you mention that respondents are required to stay within the confines of logical linguistic structure. As a respondent, I bring my own understanding, intentionality, and belief structures to the table (maybe Bakhtin or Vygotsky would be more in line here). Thus I chose to approach your riddle from a different perspective than the one intended for and expected from your target audience. In doing this, I believe I provided a valid answer "from that perspective." If you wish to debate the matter "from that perspective," then fine. I prefer to lay it to rest though. Don't you? Cheers

Happily halved by the one, ten and six to form Five hundred more upon a seat, unmoving moving charms. Unanswered riddles adorn the air, smoke comprises skin, Not of fire, smoke of stroke, posture free of sin. Merchants mate of unknown fate, hands proclaiming rank— Right on port, of fault bereft, pillars at the flank. Lain upon hard-wood deck, essence but a stain, Pirated by patriot, the loss a nation's pain. The world beyond is but a myth, one we cannot live in, Intended as a mother’s mirror . . . A birthday gift un-given.

Wow, shot down in less than three minutes. I'm humbled.

‘Round and ‘round I go in action, Hey! I’m entitled just a fraction. Always found in the lead I help and hinder the player's greed. When contest seems lost put me in; Settle for a draw to win. My house is cold; I wear a jacket, Leaving home in such a racket. So smack my butt and kick me out, Cause baby, that’s what I’m about! Yeeee-ha!

Grayven, you're a riot! Well done.

Good reasoning. And thanks for the kudos. I have another better one waiting in the wings but I'd like to see this one pegged first. Don't give up!!!

^^^So is it (sic) your claim that humans can't believe nonsensical things? I will simply say you are wrong.^^^ I didn’t make this claim. Try to address the example I proffered please. It is a puzzle, correct? A brain teaser, if you will. One you wish people to contemplate? Are we to assume your character Bob has a brain? Can we assume he uses it? Are we “allowed” within the scope of your puzzle to assume Bob would “think?” Oh! I see clearly now . . . it was a cute little linguistic paradox you wanted to share with us. Thanks. But regarding your post as a riddle that you DID request an answer to, I’ll post the reason for my comment again since it didn’t seem to get across: Bob reads the definition of hypochondria. He apparently knows that it is a “condition” one believes one has. But why isn’t it sound to assume he would also understand that hypochondria relates to a condition that is itself non-existent, as stated in the definition you provided? If Bob fears he has hypochondria, then it would be natural to inquire WHAT CONDITION BOB FEELS HIS HYPOCHONDRIA RELATES TO. If he says “hypochondria,” then he is an idiot, not a hypochondriac. ^^^Is your second claim that, in order to work on a logic puzzle, people MUST speculate about the belief structures of the characters in the story?^^^ Of course not! But people will naturally impose and assume normal belief structures for the characters in positing their actions and motivations for such. EX: Why did Tom try to smash Jerry on the head with a hammer? Well because he was angry at Jerry for shoving a hot poker up his behind. Your position seems to be that NO, we cannot make such assumptions. They are just cartoon characters and can’t feel emotion. Bob to you is just a “B” in a logical equation. Apparently you didn’t consider that others would not take this route. ^^^What is the modal status of that 'must'? Regardless of the answer to that, I will say that you are wrong...and I think looking at the answers that WERE GIVEN, without such speculation, show that I am right in this.^^^ I don’t believe I’ve ever encountered an individual who would question the “modal status” of must, LOL!! Ok, not everyone “must” consider the possible motivating factors of the characters in a riddle. These can remain dead fictions instead of tropes for reality. Tom is just a cartoon, he has no anger. He is just a logical function and should not be considered as human. Oh wait! But then “fear” and “distress” and Bob’s “worry” are right out the window too. Oh well. That’s why logical positivism, in trying to dissect meaning from language, falls short. But you MUST be aware of this as you seem to have an understanding in these matters. “I” must consider such factors because not doing so is NOT appealing to all facets of possibility in contemplating your puzzle. Or am I to be rebuked for that? The GIVEN answers, by your own admission are incorrect. You say there is no right OR wrong answer, which in my opinion makes your riddle an exercise in futility for the sake of ripping on others who try to earnestly find a plausible and sound answer. ^^^Even so, I would claim that the equations are merely a formalization of the normal language that I was using in the puzzle. Nothing terribly positivistic about that.^^^ Actually there is. Your equations fail to address possible motivation, understanding (lack of), etc. This is EXACTLY why I mentioned the “scare” word. I see now that you prefer respondents to NOT consider such matters, and that your characters are meaningless symbols NOT meant to be considered as people that can think. My bad. ^^^Is this an innate language claim? Chomsky-esque? All literate humans have a given--and only one--understanding of certain terms and definitions?^^^ Is an appeal to Chomsky really warranted here, or just a swipe to impress us with your familiarity with literary criticism? Did I say one and only one? Are “you” literate? Do you have any understanding of certain terms and definitions, or are you a language-less droid? ^^^IF you are able to set aside your own (possibly mistaken) understanding of hypochondria, you'd be able to see that puzzle.^^^ I see “that” puzzle. It’s a simple paradox. Wow!^^^ ^^^Maybe you start to ask why a condition like RIDICULOPHOBIA can result in a paradox very similar to the Liar's Paradox, or to "This sentence is false", or to Russell's 'heterological/autological' paradox^^^ I’ve already done such speculation in philosophy classes when I was much younger and thought a more provocative approach here would be to consider the puzzle from a subjective angle rather than as a simplistic linguistic paradox. After all, you did inquire whether or not the doctor was right. This naturally leads one (me) to approach it as pertaining to reality, rather than as a cute little word-play you devised to make your logic professor proud and dazzle us with your prowess at logic. You see, what is at issue here is the fact that people will approach the puzzle in different ways. That my way didn’t conform to your expectations is certainly no cause for you to make the snide suggestion that I am unintelligent. I could easily state that my mistake was in assuming YOU would be intelligent enough to consider “that” aspect of answering a riddle. It’s not that the answer is neither right nor wrong, but that the answer (non-existent anyway and so a canard for you to even request one) is wholly dependent upon how one approaches the riddle as a rejoinder. But you seem familiar enough with philosophy and language theory to appreciate that, so I imagine our discourse on this matter is at an end. Thanks.

No one so far. Here's the revised edition with a hint to follow: I'm a joke to some, considered least With me they come to a summer feast. Joined with shipmates I conjure fear, Hidden to date, sure to appear. A crooked stick to keep the beat, A bar on a cage to entrap the beast. Taken from one to frame another Hours in a day, I and my brothers.