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A popular conception Is there's no way out To give it a rest Lodge nary a doubt By popular demand If there's no way out Bar keeping the rest Or lodge not a doubt Then when it all goes down There'll be no end in sight Curiously heavy Int'resting in light And never here quite yet Though soon to be true When it's written in ink A sign to construe For its no picnic Always these in tow So find those relations You favor; you know?

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ahh cool, been awhile (so maybe i wont screw this up) _ _ _ _ _

the man's face was like limestone, basically.

FORUM

umhhh - could beeee...

WASHY From RIGHT - 1, either the H or T is correct. Not the R from ROLLS - 0, not the I from PIECE - 0, and not the G from ORGAN - 0. From WRITE - 1 and WRING - 1, either W or I is correct. Not the R from ORGAN - 0 and since one of H or T is the fourth or fifth, TE nor NG can be correct; otherwise, one of WRITE or WRING would have to score more than 1. So if one of W or I is first or third and one of H or T is fourth or fifth; if WASHY - 0, then I must be the third and T must be the last.

yes, yes, and yes. down to the last one.

ORGAN

all the above are spot on. thought i had made these more difficult then the last ones. better obscured the negating indicator/made it more ambiguous vs the other two words, etc. obviously hasn't tripped y'all up too much ...yet. you guys have already nailed several of what i thought would be the tougher ones. nicely done.

ooh - nice solve fabpig. and excellent riddle psykomakia!

Play without a jacket (4) Zero money in the box (8) Used to trip out when they were stuck up (10) Ran over the saw cut (2) Went cloudy then passed out (6) If the shoe doesn't fit, shut up (8) Doesn't that bird fly? (20) Not stabbed but sliced (6) Wiped out from being interrogated (2) Don't tell Ken (8) Trash disposal tax (4) Hadn't experimented in the past with halucinogens (6) A black eye; sore loser (2)

ahh, the numbers in parenthesis represent the would be double letter scores in the game of Scrabble ©. meant as possible clues to winnow out potential letters. think it may have inadvertantly misled anyone familiar with typical cryptic clues (you there, fabpig?) EDIT: right on phil1882, thanks

have a bizarre idea that fits almost too well but gonna wait on the off chance i may be right. too funny if so.

yes sir, all correct yeah Y-san, don't have OCD, just like java (2,8). have a bunch of these. may post more shortly.

cant quite make the connection to your subracted word and the clue but could be persuaded. gonna say, "not that Y-san" for now.

good stuff you two - fabpig takes the fourth one. and Y-san, must admit i flinched before opening your second spoiler.

A great distance left of center (4) Axe that half-assed gag (20) Doesn't give a toss when running away (2) Unbundle the puzzle (8) No longer the long time largest corporation (16) Bum shoulder relieved (4) Happens not to belong to us (6) The top non-executive (6) A dirty dirty place expunged (2) Left this Earth in style (2) Expelling the popular student stung (2) Went downhill from the time they were truent (6) Similar to my ... kinda

right on - had a minor brainurism when first reading Y-san's solution. couldn't quite visualize her layout and quickly accepted her claim for fourteen. my solution for thirteen is similar in concept but slightly different in layout. good work you two. thanks for playing