TwoaDay Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 is 0 halfway between infinity and negative infinity or are all numbers equally distant from infiniy? no im not going to tell you here lets have some discussion first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Brandonb Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 (edited) I'd say that neg and pos inf. are equally distant from zero. B/C even though all numbers are infinitely distant from infinite, theoretically if you compared 8 to infinite, and 22 to infinite, then 8 would be infinite+14, when compared to 22. Ok, and.... I'm lost jk Edited August 14, 2008 by Brandonb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Infinity has no beginning, no middle, and no end. 0 is just "our" middle. It's just a matter of putting what we can't understand into some kind of perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Uhhh...no, I don't believe that zero is. For one thing, infinity is not a number, so you can't have a number closer or farther too it. Also, when thought about like a number, infinity added to anything(even infinity) is still infinity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 unreality Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 yeah, what's closest to infinity? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Well there you go, just a matter of perspective. Here's another: What about the idea that 0 has nothing to do with infinity since infinity is supposed to represent "everything in existence" and 0 represents "nothing in existence". That's kinda combining the idea of referencing numbers with everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Infinity is not a number. It is a concept. Arithmetic or any kind of mathematical operations are not defined on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 So in essence, 0 is the opposite of infinity, even though numerically it's somehow included As for the rest of the numbers, they are not closer or further away from eachother unless you give a reference point to begin with as Brandonb did with 8 and 22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Come on guys. A number cannot be compared with a concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Schnozberries taste like Schnozberries.Sure it can...here I'll show you: number is to concept as... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Brandonb Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Come on guys. A number cannot be compared with a concept. *Playing Devil's Advocate Unless a concept is assigned something to represent it. Any form of symbol. Infinite has been assigned a symbol with no numerical value, but with a numerical concept for which is was assigned. When infinite is considered within numerical parameters (not just "everything"), infinite is represented in mathematical equations by a symbol. Certainly the concept is infinite, but the symbol is concrete, and may be used to express variations on infinite (though in reality there are none). So uh, yeah... I give up, nevermind. I guess my original reasoning was nothing more than an expression of the difference of two numbers in relation to eachother alone, then adding the concept of infinite. Not actually comparing those numbers to infinite. Ok, I'm done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Well, here's one for you. Is infinity - infinity equal to negative infinity, positive infinity, 0, any number you choose, undefined? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Well, here's one for you. Is infinity - infinity equal to negative infinity, positive infinity, 0, any number you choose, undefined? I don't know who you are referring to, but I would say that its not negative infinity, positive infinity, 0, or undefined. Its actually Indeterminate. I would also like to show you this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 I would also like to show you this. I would rather post this here than dredge up an old thread: In that equation, the limit of S as n -> infinity is in fact undefined. Indeterminate is a special case where you have a variable in an equation that can take an infinite number of values. (i.e. x = x) In your thread there you have a few possible solutions, but none of them are really correct. This makes it undefined. Looked at differently, Indeterminate yields an infinite number of solutions, undefined yields none. As applied to the problem I stated previously, Indeterminate is equivalent to "any number you choose". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 In your thread there you have a few possible solutions, but none of them are really correct. This makes it undefined. The answer is not undefined since it lies between 0 and 1. And anything in between zero and one is defined. Its just indeterminate since you can't be sure if it is zero, one, half, or anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 The answer is not undefined since it lies between 0 and 1. And anything in between zero and one is defined. Its just indeterminate since you can't be sure if it is zero, one, half, or anything else. If that is true, prove to me that S = 1/3. I don't think it's possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 If that is true, prove to me that S = 1/3. I don't think it's possible. I said that the answer lies between 0 and 1. AND NOT THAT Everything that lies between 0 and 1 is the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 I said that the answer lies between 0 and 1. AND NOT THAT Everything that lies between 0 and 1 is the answer. I disagree. If "everything between 0 and 1" is the answer, then the equation should evaluate to true for and number between 0 and 1. I gave you one such number and it can't be proven true. Therefore the answer is not "everything between 0 and 1" it is "0, 1/2 or 1" and since you have no way of knowing which one it is, the answer is undefined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 I disagree. If "everything between 0 and 1" is the answer, then the equation should evaluate to true for and number between 0 and 1. I gave you one such number and it can't be proven true. Therefore the answer is not "everything between 0 and 1" it is "0, 1/2 or 1" and since you have no way of knowing which one it is, the answer is undefined. Please read my post again. I didn't say that everything between 0 and 1 is the answer. You are probably confused between NOT and NOTE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 And by the way, zero, one and half are well defined in mathematics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 And by the way, zero, one and half are well defined in mathematics. Not if any of them could be an answer, but not all of them at once. For example, the limit sin(1/x) as x -> 0 is undefined, even though it could be any number from -1 to 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Nothing is closer to infinity as nothing is closer to nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 (edited) i think if you think about infinity too much, there may be an off-chance of your head exploding and i think in theory, 0 is in the middle but in practice, it doesn't matter Edited August 17, 2008 by lemonymelon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 TwoaDay Posted August 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 there is no middle between infinity and negative infinity, all numbers are equally close to both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 oh oh well aargh if i think about this too much i may spontaneously combust... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 infinity x zero = cancelled, we are numberless - oh gosh - I just erased all the nubers in the universe - see bonanova's zero topic - it's quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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