unreality Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 hey guys, I just thought of this... I'm not sure if its a paradox or not. You open a Chinese fortune cookie and the fortune reads: "This fortune will not come true." Is that a paradox? I'm not sure... cuz if it does come true, then it says it didn't come true... which it did, so itd be false but if its false, if the fortune doesnt come true, the fortune happened correctly and it was true paradox (just basically the same as the Liar's Paradox, i realize now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 well it isn't really predicting anything so in a way it doesn't matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 unreality Posted July 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 it doesnt matter if other ones will come true... this one can come true. or cant. or can. or cant. or can. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 There is no paradox because fortune cookies have the ability to be wrong. if you were to say it was a fortune teller from some fantasy world that could actually tell fortunes, and was forced to convey them truthfully, (else he could lie about the fortune) then you would have a paradox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 unreality Posted July 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 they have the ABILITY to be wrong... but this fortune is so vague it is right, but then its wrong, then right, etc. i dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 bonanova Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 When a denial implicitly asserts a truth you have a paradox. Kind of an empty one, tho -- as was pointed out, nothing was predicted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 It is a paradox because it refers to itself and saint it itself is false. It is saying that a negative(itself) is negative making it a positive which therfore again makes it negative; it is a classic paradox cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 hey guys, I just thought of this... I'm not sure if its a paradox or not. You open a Chinese fortune cookie and the fortune reads: "This fortune will not come true." Is that a paradox? I'm not sure... cuz if it does come true, then it says it didn't come true... which it did, so itd be false but if its false, if the fortune doesnt come true, the fortune happened correctly and it was true paradox (just basically the same as the Liar's Paradox, i realize now) This COULD be a paradox, but then you have to ask yourself- what is the fortune that won't come true? It can't be the fortune from that particular fortune cookie- it isn't a fortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 no what u have to say is the A man opens a fortune cookie that stats: "You will open this cookie and the fortune will not come true" because then there is a fortune and it has already become false, its not a true parodox but it is a better one then yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 hey guys, I just thought of this... I'm not sure if its a paradox or not. You open a Chinese fortune cookie and the fortune reads: "This fortune will not come true." Is that a paradox? I'm not sure... cuz if it does come true, then it says it didn't come true... which it did, so itd be false but if its false, if the fortune doesnt come true, the fortune happened correctly and it was true paradox (just basically the same as the Liar's Paradox, i realize now) The Indian market is flooded with Chinese goods and trust me not many are reliable n durable. Theres no argument about the fabric quality. You open a Chinese fortune cookie and the fortune reads: "This fortune will not come true." Its not possible to decide your fortune from a fortune cookie. I personaly feel destiny cannot be altered and definitely a fortune cookie cannot seal a persons fate. According to me the above is not a paradox. WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN IN A PERSONS LIFE HAPPENS... NOT BECAUSE A FORTUNE COOKIE TOLD SO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 "You open a Chinese fortune cookie and the fortune reads: "This fortune will not come true." This is not a paradox. There is no fortune to come true, or not to come true. As some others said, there is no prediction. Thus there is no loop, no contradiction. In essense, the statement does not make sense, and alsocannot be a paradox, sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 (edited) RE: Origin of "Fortune Cookie": Requested by (guest, or establishment) to chef for delivery to guest or establishment. Ancient form of PM..(personal message). Edited February 9, 2008 by Xspyder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 unreality Posted February 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 The Indian market is flooded with Chinese goods and trust me not many are reliable n durable. Theres no argument about the fabric quality. You open a Chinese fortune cookie and the fortune reads: "This fortune will not come true." Its not possible to decide your fortune from a fortune cookie. I personaly feel destiny cannot be altered and definitely a fortune cookie cannot seal a persons fate. According to me the above is not a paradox. WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN IN A PERSONS LIFE HAPPENS... NOT BECAUSE A FORTUNE COOKIE TOLD SO. lol I think you're misunderstanding me... I would be the last one to believe in a fortune cookie. I believe completely in free will ;D it was just a paradox for paradox's sake (but apparently there is some arguement over whether it's a paradox or not, though it doesnt matter cuz its pointless) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 This could be a paradox yeah but again with all the possibilities of them also being false and the fact that its so general that theres no real base to it... theres is no way to be right or wrong, pretty much a vicious circle but in the end it rolls towards nothing naff all lol and a fortune cookie can not alter or determine someones future... if you believe that its free will then it may happen by chance and still run correctly through what may or will happen but not be reason for what happens... like a coincidence. besides you don't actually mention what this fortune actually was... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 TwoaDay Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 in our world this would technically not be a paradox but i get what unreality is saying because if fortune cookies were always correct and the fortune must happen as stated it would be a paradox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 It is a paradox because it refers to itself and saint it itself is false. It is saying that a negative(itself) is negative making it a positive which therfore again makes it negative; it is a classic paradox cycle. It is just one of those lying paradoxes, with the only possibility of being true is being false, and in being false it must be true. It is stating that it's self is true that it's false. One thing would say something, then another status is used, but that status is one that covers the whole, and thus starts the paradox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 in our world this would technically not be a paradox but i get what unreality is saying because if fortune cookies were always correct and the fortune must happen as stated it would be a paradox It still is a paradox. The validity of fortune cookies has nothing to do with it. It either comes true or it doesn't and neither one is really foretold by the cookie. The paradox lies in the fact that if the fortune comes true, then by the fortune's statement it didn't come true. Conversely, for the fortune not to come true, the fortune's statement must be true. Addressing the validity issue: A fortune on a piece of paper is no more or less valid than a statement stamped on a plate as in the double liar's paradox. Because a fortune cookie involves the future, it is easy to discount that part of the problem as not relevant, but it actually is a perfectly good analogy to the double liar paradox as unreality states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 Whatever happens, it's not a fortune but a prediction so wrong use of words. Otherwise, it would be a paradox but not in a fortune cookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 if it's false it won't come true...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Is this? Someone opens a fortune cookie and it reads "all fortune cookies are incorrect" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 on a unrelated note, fortune cookies weren't invented in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hey guys, I just thought of this... I'm not sure if its a paradox or not.
You open a Chinese fortune cookie and the fortune reads: "This fortune will not come true."
Is that a paradox? I'm not sure...
cuz if it does come true, then it says it didn't come true... which it did, so itd be false
but if its false, if the fortune doesnt come true, the fortune happened correctly and it was true
paradox (just basically the same as the Liar's Paradox, i realize now)
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