BMAD Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 inspired by one of Bonanova's past problems: What proportion of the area of a regular n-gon is closer to its center than to any edge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 bonanova Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 that area is bounded by a similar n-gon at 1/2 linear scale, thus 1/4 of the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BMAD Posted April 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 (edited) that area is bounded by a similar n-gon at 1/2 linear scale, thus 1/4 of the area. Are you sure? For some reason I am finding my area to be rounder in shape. Edited April 28, 2014 by BMAD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BMAD Posted April 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 (edited) . Edited April 28, 2014 by BMAD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 bonanova Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 You're right. I drew a ray from the center and took the midpoint. But that doesn't fit the question. I'll give it more thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 m00li Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 I second Bonanova's first response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 bonanova Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Since I inspired this, I guess I should solve it. The locus of points equidistant from the center and any side of a regular n-gon has no straight portions. It is rather a sequence of n parabolic sections centered on the apothems (perpendicular lines to the sides.) Sketch an n-gon with center at (0,1) and bottom side on the line y = -1. The origin lies at the midpoint of the apothem drawn to the bottom side. The origin is thus one of the equidistant points. The complete locus of points equidistant from the center and the bottom side is y = x2/4. If we do this for each side, we join n parabolic segments, and the area of their combined interior is the area of the n-gon that is closer to the center than to any side. Lines drawn from the center to the n vertices define the points where the parabolic segments join. From the center, draw a line downward at an angle pi/n from the vertical. Call the slope of that line m where m = 1/tan(pi/n). That line intersects the parabola at xn = 2(-m + sqrt(m2+1)), yn = xn2/4 Look at the rectangle defined by x = 0, xn and y = 0, 1 - its area is just Ar = xn, comprising three parts A triangular portion above the diagonal line with area At = 1/2 xn (1-yn) A lower area under the parabola with area Ap = (1/12) xn3 The middle area comprises the points closer to the center than to any side. The total area of interest is then 2n(Ar - At - Ap) = n xn (1 + (1/12) xn2) Finally we find the total area of a regular n-gon with apothem = 2. From standard geometry, side = 2 apothem tan(pi/n) perimeter = n x side Arean = 1/2 apothem perimeter = 4 n tan(pi/n) Note that n tan(pi/n) goes to pi as n goes to infinity so Arean=inf = Areacircle = 4pi. Because the apothem becomes the radius for a circle. The fraction of area of a regular n-gon closer to its center than to any side is thus.fn = xn(1+1/12 xn2) / 4 tan(pi/n) -> 1/4 as n -> infinity (circle). Results for various values of n n fraction ------+------------ 3 0.1851851852 4 0.2189514165 5 0.2314757303 6 0.237604307 8 0.2432751885 10 0.2457666208 12 0.2470862357 20 0.2489644765 48 0.24982129 100000 0.2499999961 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BMAD Posted April 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 hmm well it does appear to be approaching 1/4 so maybe that is the limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 m00li Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 awesome problem and solution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 bonanova Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 hmm well it does appear to be approaching 1/4 so maybe that is the limit. Yes of course for the circle the locus of equidistant points is a circle with half the radius and thus 1/4 the area. The mistake of the first guess was to apply that reasoning to a polygon. m00li, agree it is an interesting problem, much deeper than first appearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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