Anza Power Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Find a one-to-one and on mapping from the closed segment [0,1] to the open segment (0,1). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 superprismatic Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 If x=0, f(x)=1/2; if x≠0 and 1/x is an integer, f(x)=x/(1+2x); otherwise, f(x)=x. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 bonanova Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 Are there conditions other than being one-to-one and onto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 vinay.singh84 Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 If x=0, f(x)=1/2; if x≠0 and 1/x is an integer, f(x)=x/(1+2x); otherwise, f(x)=x. Very impressive! Did you just devise this yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 superprismatic Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 If x=0, f(x)=1/2; if x≠0 and 1/x is an integer, f(x)=x/(1+2x); otherwise, f(x)=x. Very impressive! Did you just devise this yourself? I first thought to make room in the range of the function for the extra two (images of 0 and 1) by moving a subset of the rationals up two spots (as Zeno would have done) thusly: Going 1/2 way the distance each time, the subset of the rationals is {1/2,3/4,7/8,15/16,31/32,...}. So, mapping 0 to 1/2 and 1 to 3/4, I just had to map everything in the subset up two positions forward in the set. Thus, I had to map 1/2→ 7/8, 3/4→ 15/16, 7/8→ 31/32, 15/16→ 63/64,... I could leave everything else not in the subset to map to itself. This seemed a bit cumbersome, so I set out to simplify. At some point I realized than the numerators could all be the same and I could have used the set {1/2,1/4,1/8,1/16,1/32,...} instead. Then, it hit me that I didn't need powers of two at all, just increasing denominators, which led me to use the set {1/2,1/3,1/4,1/5,1/6,...}. From the original Zeno idea to that final subset of the rationals only took 5 minutes or so, but there was no particular rush as I noticed that there was no activity on this OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Anza Power Posted September 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Are there conditions other than being one-to-one and onto?No other conditions, although if you want something really interesting try having a continuous function... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 bonanova Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Are there conditions other than being one-to-one and onto?No other conditions, although if you want something really interesting try having a continuous function... Yup, in fact that's the assumption I made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 witzar Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Are there conditions other than being one-to-one and onto? No other conditions, although if you want something really interesting try having a continuous function... continuous image of compact space has to be compact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Anza Power Posted September 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) Are there conditions other than being one-to-one and onto?No other conditions, although if you want something really interesting try having a continuous function...continuous image of compact space has to be compact.Oh, that's even simpler than what I had in mind: Since the function is continuous and reversible, it has to be monotonic, assume it's monotonically rising, by definition of "continuous" limx->1f(x) = f(1), but f(1) is somewhere in the open segment (0,1), so let's say f(1)=1-epsilon, but since f is monotonically rising that means there is nothing mapped to the segment (1-epsilon,1) Edited September 25, 2013 by Anza Power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 bonanova Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Find a one-to-one and on mapping from the closed segment [0,1] to the open segment (0,1).
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