superprismatic Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 4 liters of wine is removed from a wine cask and replaced with 4 liters of water. The wine in the cask is thus diluted. This procedure of removing 4 liters from the cask and replacing it with 4 liters of water is done two more times. The diluted wine left in the cask is now .512 the strength of what it was initially. How much wine did the cask originally hold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 preflop Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 20 Liters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 0.512^(1/4) = .845 4/(1-0.845897011) = 25.9566672 liters check my work: (26*22/26*22/26*22/26*22/26)/26 = 0.512622107 is about .512 strength 26 liters but the answer's not exact, so it could be way off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 superprismatic Posted August 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 0.512^(1/4) = .845 4/(1-0.845897011) = 25.9566672 liters check my work: (26*22/26*22/26*22/26*22/26)/26 = 0.512622107 is about .512 strength 26 liters but the answer's not exact, so it could be way off. Hi, pengwen! Welcome. Please explain the individual steps leading to your answer. The fun of this site lay in how people get to their solutions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 (edited) 20 After first transfer, strength of wine = (X-4)/X , where X is the volume of cask. After 2nd transfer strength = [(X-4)/X]^2 After 3rd transfer strength = [(X-4)/X]^3 which is =.512 Solving for X gives volume of cask. Edited August 18, 2011 by superprismatic Please use spoilers so others don't accidentally see what they may want to work out themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 @ skpoudyal Thks for the simplified 3rd degree polynomial. Got stuck in reducing that. Resorted to goal seek in excel to get answer. Hope that is not against the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Instead of dealing with a third degree polynomial, I chose to put the formulas into a spreadsheet. At each step, calculated amount of water removed and amount of wine removed. Then proportion of wine after adding 4 liters more of water. Cell A1 was my original guess. From here it is simple to plug in different options into cell A1 until results give the desired .512. Solution at which I arrived doing it this way 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 dark_magician_92 Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 20 litres. eqn is : x*(1-4/x)^3=0.512x (1-4/x)^3=0.512=0.8^3 1-4/x=0.8 x=20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 Whupps, I thought the cask was diluted 4 times, not 3. I figured that 0.512 is the dilution quotient times itself a few times. So: cube root of 0.512 = 0.8 The 0.2 (1-0.8) is then the water part of the wine. To find the amount of wine initially: 4/(0.2) = 20 With that process, you can have the equation: CaskSize = 4/(1-0.512^(1/TimesDiluted)) 1: 8.196721311 2: 14.06181765 *3: 20* 4: 25.95666716 5: 31.9207495 Hope that covers it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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4 liters of wine is removed from a wine cask and replaced with
4 liters of water. The wine in the cask is thus diluted. This
procedure of removing 4 liters from the cask and replacing it
with 4 liters of water is done two more times. The diluted
wine left in the cask is now .512 the strength of what it was
initially. How much wine did the cask originally hold?
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