Prime Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 (edited) Just a bit more challenging factorial problem. How many consecutive zeroes does the number 2008! end with? For those not familiar with factorial operator "!", n! = 1*2*3* ... *(n-1)*n. That is all numbers from 1 to n multiplied. Edited October 5, 2008 by Prime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 unreality Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 On calculators all across the Internet, 170! is the highest thing you can enter, 171! always says "infinity", or in Google's case, just does a normal search I'll have to figure this out mathematically I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Prime Posted October 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 On calculators all across the Internet, 170! is the highest thing you can enter, 171! always says "infinity", or in Google's case, just does a normal search I'll have to figure this out mathematically I guess Even if your calculator could come up with exact decimal representation of 2008!, it would take you several minutes to count the zeroes at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 according to WinXP calculator (scientific form) 2008!= 8.64346418576710702052555578574491*10^5761, which would mean that there would be 5761-32= 5729 noughts on the end of 2008!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Prime Posted October 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 (edited) according to WinXP calculator (scientific form) 2008!= 8.64346418576710702052555578574491*10^5761, which would mean that there would be 5761-32= 5729 noughts on the end of 2008!? Sorry, that's incorrect. I did not mean for anyone to use calculator or computer program to count the actual number of zeroes at the end. I meant to find the answer analytically. Use calculator only for what fits entirely on the display without "E" notation. As you have noticed: Your calculator suggests that it is a 5762-digit number. Whereas, it only gives you the first 32 significant digits. (The last 33rd digit is a round off). Thus you lose the 5730 rightmost digits and have no way of telling how many trailing zeroes were there. Edited October 5, 2008 by Prime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 The number of 0s at the end of a number must be equal to the minimum of the number of times 2 is a factor and the number of times 5 is a factor of that number. Now lets find the number of times 5 is a factor of 2008! 2008/ (54) = 3. there are 3 numbers from 1 to 2008 that are divisible by 54. So that adds up to 4*3 = 12 times that 5 is a factor 2008/ (53) = 16. there are 16 numbers from 1 to 2008 that are divisible by 53. Subtract from this the 3 that were already counted above. So we have 13 numbers that are divisible by 53. So that adds to 3*13 = 39 times that 5 is a factor. 2008/ (52) = 80. there are 80 numbers from 1 to 2008 that are divisible by 52. Subtract from this the 16 that were already counted above. So we have 64 numbers that are divisible by 52. So that adds to 2*64= 128 times that 5 is a factor. 2008/ (5) = 401 . there are 401 numbers from 1 to 2008 that are divisible by 5. Subtract from this the 80 that were already counted above. So we have 321 numbers that are divisible by 5. So that adds to 1*321= 321 times that 5 is a factor. So total number of times 5 is a factor in 2008! should be 12 + 39 + 128 + 321 = 500. The number of times 2 is a factor in 2008! is definitely more than 500. So there must be 500 trailing zeros in 2008! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 (edited) It is 2008*2007*2006.... so the numbers that are multiplied include 10,20,.....90,100,110....200....1000,1010...1100...2000 Allthese will contribute to zeros at the end. Till 100 we have 11 zeros then for every hundred we have 11 more zeros from 910 to 1000 we have 12 zeros This adds up to 11*10+1 Same is for 1001 to 2000 so we should have 2*(11*10+1)=2*111=222 just saw it is not complete as it includes number of 2,5 then 12,15 and so on as well which will add zero so there should be 201 more zeros that makes it 222+201 Edit: Found my answer incomplete and corected it Edited October 5, 2008 by imran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 On calculators all across the Internet, 170! is the highest thing you can enter, 171! always says "infinity", or in Google's case, just does a normal search I'll have to figure this out mathematically I guess my calculator can do like 345! without using E notation =) but still too big i guess will try to figure this one out =P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Prime Posted October 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 The number of 0s at the end of a number must be equal to the minimum of the number of times 2 is a factor and the number of times 5 is a factor of that number. Now lets find the number of times 5 is a factor of 2008! 2008/ (54) = 3. there are 3 numbers from 1 to 2008 that are divisible by 54. So that adds up to 4*3 = 12 times that 5 is a factor 2008/ (53) = 16. there are 16 numbers from 1 to 2008 that are divisible by 53. Subtract from this the 3 that were already counted above. So we have 13 numbers that are divisible by 53. So that adds to 3*13 = 39 times that 5 is a factor. 2008/ (52) = 80. there are 80 numbers from 1 to 2008 that are divisible by 52. Subtract from this the 16 that were already counted above. So we have 64 numbers that are divisible by 52. So that adds to 2*64= 128 times that 5 is a factor. 2008/ (5) = 401 . there are 401 numbers from 1 to 2008 that are divisible by 5. Subtract from this the 80 that were already counted above. So we have 321 numbers that are divisible by 5. So that adds to 1*321= 321 times that 5 is a factor. So total number of times 5 is a factor in 2008! should be 12 + 39 + 128 + 321 = 500. The number of times 2 is a factor in 2008! is definitely more than 500. So there must be 500 trailing zeros in 2008! Vimil has the exact number! Imran came close, but missed the powers of 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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How many consecutive zeroes does the number 2008! end with?
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