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Since I'm tired of being attacked, I thought I'd work on something I've been thinking about for awhile, so here is Level 1:

TI FOPOB AOR CRCELZW IW AMX YNJM BCUNFQX IB NCI SNKHWRR ECAHQXQSQH; SNKHWRR ECAHQXQSQH CRCGBBMM IB BTWFLTWU TBM ESSRLR RWXBBMUOQH WFCBWJO FOPOBCWU

-SNI TTU, TBM ASL OU WXC

Has my usual flair...;P

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Sorry, I'm new here, I've been reading the board for quite some time, just recently started posting... So can you give me the run down of the rules to solve these?

I understand I have to figure out which letter is substituted for which, but are there letters that keep their original "meaning"? Anything else i need to know?

And if possible - what is your usual flair? :) Murder mystery?

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Sorry, I'm new here, I've been reading the board for quite some time, just recently started posting... So can you give me the run down of the rules to solve these?

I understand I have to figure out which letter is substituted for which, but are there letters that keep their original "meaning"? Anything else i need to know?

And if possible - what is your usual flair? :) Murder mystery?

For one thing of about 22000 10 letter words in the english dictionary, I did not find a single one that matched the pattern ECAHQXQSQH. So either that is a name of a person or there is something else going on than mere letter substitution.

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Its tricky but I think I figured it out. I won't post the solution yet so people have a chance to solve it, but here's a hint that should help.

As Y-san said in the original post... it's not your usual cryptogram.

The first letter of each word is not encrypted.

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Geez Louise! I finally got it. :wacko:

After Sinistral pointed out that the first letter of each word wasn't encrypted, I immediately noticed who the author was, which lead to...

A - Z = 1 - 26

1st letter isn't encrypted

2nd letter is 1st letter's number of positions away from the original.

3rd letter is 2nd letter's number of positions away from the original.

and so on.

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Sorry, I'm new here, I've been reading the board for quite some time, just recently started posting... So can you give me the run down of the rules to solve these?

I understand I have to figure out which letter is substituted for which, but are there letters that keep their original "meaning"? Anything else i need to know?

And if possible - what is your usual flair? :) Murder mystery?

Lol...then this was definitely the WRONG cryptogram to start out on...my usual flair is a flair for the unusual...i.e. adding a "twist" to a popular kind of puzzle ;P

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Geez Louise! I finally got it. :wacko:

After Sinistral pointed out that the first letter of each word wasn't encrypted, I immediately noticed who the author was, which lead to...

A - Z = 1 - 26

1st letter isn't encrypted

2nd letter is 1st letter's number of positions away from the original.

3rd letter is 2nd letter's number of positions away from the original.

and so on.

I think you're on to it...but there's a different explanation...

there's a reason the title's not your usual title either...;P

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I think you're on to it...but there's a different explanation...
there's a reason the title's not your usual title either...;P

well i know the quote and who it's by...

Edit: previous logic flawed...

so the true puzzle is figuring out how then huh...because the source was found too easily.

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Geez Louise! I finally got it. :wacko:

After Sinistral pointed out that the first letter of each word wasn't encrypted, I immediately noticed who the author was, which lead to...

A - Z = 1 - 26

1st letter isn't encrypted

2nd letter is 1st letter's number of positions away from the original.

3rd letter is 2nd letter's number of positions away from the original.

and so on.

Yeah you've pretty much got it, except you have it worded slightly different. I think your answer works fine, but Y-san is probably looking for a very specific wording in the answer because of the title.

As you found out, each letter represents a number A = 1 and Z = 26. The first letter in each word is not encrypted, so to "decrypt" the second letter in each word you "shift" to the left a number of positions equal to the value of the first letter. But if each letter represents a number, couldn't we also see "shifting to the left" as subtracting one number from another? Therefore we could also say that to encrypt the original quote, the encrypted second letter is the SUM of the current letter with the previous one. Does this ring a bell?

If it doesn't... what's another word for "Lie"? Lie meaning untruth.

Do the same with the word "over", and then add the sound of an italian guy sneezing. :P

Very clever, Y-san! :D

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Geez Louise! I finally got it. :wacko:

After Sinistral pointed out that the first letter of each word wasn't encrypted, I immediately noticed who the author was, which lead to...

A - Z = 1 - 26

1st letter isn't encrypted

2nd letter is 1st letter's number of positions away from the original.

3rd letter is 2nd letter's number of positions away from the original.

and so on.

Hey, that's almost my Progressive Encryption Algorithm I developed in university. Almost. ;) Hmmm, maybe... Wait, no... if:

It's not close to my PEA if the shift per letter is based on the Fibonacci sequence, 0,1,1,2,3,5,8, etc. It is if it's purely dependend on adjacent characters by some method.

Uh oh, lunch is over! ttyl

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To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence;

supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.

-SUN TZU, THE ART OF WAR

Heh, that took some number crunching. :) Nice.

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Heh, that took some number crunching. :) Nice.

To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence;

supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.

-SUN TZU, THE ART OF WAR

Haha...tell me about it ;P

Nice job, everyone! Particular thanks to Aizen for giving hints and not giving out the answer right away...:D

I'll try to get Level 2 out later tonight ;)

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Haha...tell me about it ;P

Nice job, everyone! Particular thanks to Aizen for giving hints and not giving out the answer right away...:D

I'll try to get Level 2 out later tonight ;)

and till now I still not get it........ :huh:

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12345678901234567890123456
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ

T I -- F O P O B
21 9 -- 6 15 16 15 2

T O -- F I G H T
21 15 -- 6 9 7 8 20
         1         2

To get the second letter, (O - 15), take the second letter (number) minus the first letter (number) and wrap around 26 if required. The difference between 9 and 21 is 15, 9 to 1 is 9, 26 to 21 is 6, 9+6 is 15, 15 is "O". The next word is simpler. 15-6 is 9, hence "I". Now to continue the word, do the same again, 16-9 is 7, "G". You're always taking the first number from the letter ahead from the encrypted word, and the second number from the current letter in the decrypted word. So, we have 6, (first letter), 15-6=9, 16-9=7, 15-7=8, 2-8=20 (wrapping around 26).

Hope that helps.

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12345678901234567890123456
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ

T I -- F O P O B
21 9 -- 6 15 16 15 2

T O -- F I G H T
21 15 -- 6 9 7 8 20
         1         2

I just found it amusing that you use almost the exact same notation that I used in my tools for decrypting these.

I created a text file in notepad with the following. It allows me to do the mod 26 calculation even on shifted ciphers with a quick glance.


12345678901234567890123456 78901234567890123456789012
-------------------------- --------------------------
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
BCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZA BCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZA
CDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZAB CDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZAB
DEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABC DEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABC
EFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCD EFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCD
FGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDE FGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDE
GHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEF GHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEF
HIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFG HIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFG
IJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGH IJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGH
JKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHI JKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHI
KLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJ KLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJ
LMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJK LMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJK
MNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKL MNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKL
NOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLM NOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLM
OPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMN OPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMN
PQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNO PQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNO
QRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP QRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP
RSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQ RSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQ
STUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQR STUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQR
TUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRS TUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRS
UVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRST UVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRST
VWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTU VWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTU
WXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUV WXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUV
XYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVW XYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVW
ZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXY ZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXY
0        1         2          3         4         5  

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Hope that helps.


12345678901234567890123456
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ

T I -- F O P O B
21 9 -- 6 15 16 15 2

T O -- F I G H T
21 15 -- 6 9 7 8 20
         1         2

To get the second letter, (O - 15), take the second letter (number) minus the first letter (number) and wrap around 26 if required. The difference between 9 and 21 is 15, 9 to 1 is 9, 26 to 21 is 6, 9+6 is 15, 15 is "O". The next word is simpler. 15-6 is 9, hence "I". Now to continue the word, do the same again, 16-9 is 7, "G". You're always taking the first number from the letter ahead from the encrypted word, and the second number from the current letter in the decrypted word. So, we have 6, (first letter), 15-6=9, 16-9=7, 15-7=8, 2-8=20 (wrapping around 26).

Wow! Thanks Jarod997 for your explanation. Finally understand how it works.

Y-san, great one! :D You really suit the title of "That woman" (continue with this, "Where does she get the idea to creat such puzzle?")

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