superprismatic Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 I have taken the standard A-Z alphabet and permuted it in such a way that the permuted alphabet starts with a long English word. The object of this puzzle is to determine my permuted alphabet. For clues, I give you five sets of pairs of letters. Each set has the property that every pair of letters within that set are the same distance apart, in the same direction, in my permuted alphabet. Furthermore, each set uses a distance/direction pair which is not used in any other set. For example, if my permuted alphabet were ACEGIKLNPRTVXBDFHJLNPRTVXZ Two of my sets may be {AG,LR,HN,XC,ZE,KP} and {BA,DC,FE,HG,JI} in which case, the first set represents pairs of letters where the second of the pair is three away to the right of the first letter of the pair (AG has G three to the right of A; XC has C three to the right of X) or, equivalently, 23 away to the left of the first letter. The second set contains pairs which contain pairs of letters which are 13 apart from each other. Notice that the alphabet is considered cyclic and counting is done 'around the corner'. The five sets are: Set 1: {EF,HA,IH,QV,TB,WZ,ZN} Set 2: {JA,KB,QE,WJ,ZM,HO,UQ,BR,RU,CV} Set 3: {AK,CH,DV,FW,JX,NG,QN,TJ,UI,VO,WP,YB,ZR} Set 4: {LC,UD,NF,QH,BN,JR,RS,ST,GW} Set 5: {CD,GS,HV,KY,TW} Can you find my permuted alphabet which starts with a long English word? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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0 curr3nt Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) because I think I found 12 combinations of letters that would fit the puzzle. Six unique sets with each one mirrored. For the given distances of each set here are the six unique combinations. The longest word I found was in the last set backwards. _1 _2 _3 _4 _5 14 10 23 _1 13 : O K I V A U D P M G W B N F Y Q H X L C J R S T Z E 16 _4 17 _3 13 : M X O G L K W C I B J V N R A F S U Y T D Q Z P H E 18 24 11 _5 13 : J Q W U O R H B D K S X N P I T L F M V Z C Y G A E 20 18 _5 _7 13 : Y V L P S B O Q A C M T N K H U J G Z F I X D R W E 22 12 25 _9 13 : I U M B Y X J T O V D G N Q L R Z K A P W F H C S E 24 _6 19 11 13 : L B A T H G I R Y P O C N U Z X W V S Q M K J F D E edit - getting formatting right is a puzzle of it's own... Edited June 18, 2012 by curr3nt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 superprismatic Posted June 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 because I think I found 12 combinations of letters that would fit the puzzle. Six unique sets with each one mirrored. For the given distances of each set here are the six unique combinations. The longest word I found was in the last set backwards. _1 _2 _3 _4 _5 14 10 23 _1 13 : O K I V A U D P M G W B N F Y Q H X L C J R S T Z E 16 _4 17 _3 13 : M X O G L K W C I B J V N R A F S U Y T D Q Z P H E 18 24 11 _5 13 : J Q W U O R H B D K S X N P I T L F M V Z C Y G A E 20 18 _5 _7 13 : Y V L P S B O Q A C M T N K H U J G Z F I X D R W E 22 12 25 _9 13 : I U M B Y X J T O V D G N Q L R Z K A P W F H C S E 24 _6 19 11 13 : L B A T H G I R Y P O C N U Z X W V S Q M K J F D E edit - getting formatting right is a puzzle of it's own... Yes, you've got it! The 12 are basically all the same because decimations of the alphabet by integers relatively prime to 26 (there are 12 of them) preserves the fact that all sets contain pairs which all have the same distances, and the fact that all sets represent different distances. The purpose of the long word was to help nail down the correct alphabet. It started with the word UNCOPYRIGHTABLE and was followed by the remaining letters in alphabetical order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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I have taken the standard A-Z alphabet and permuted it
in such a way that the permuted alphabet starts with
a long English word. The object of this puzzle is to
determine my permuted alphabet.
For clues, I give you five sets of pairs of letters.
Each set has the property that every pair of letters within
that set are the same distance apart, in the same direction,
in my permuted alphabet. Furthermore, each set uses a
distance/direction pair which is not used in any other set.
For example, if my permuted alphabet were
ACEGIKLNPRTVXBDFHJLNPRTVXZ
Two of my sets may be
{AG,LR,HN,XC,ZE,KP} and {BA,DC,FE,HG,JI}
in which case, the first set represents pairs of letters
where the second of the pair is three away to the right
of the first letter of the pair (AG has G three to the
right of A; XC has C three to the right of X) or,
equivalently, 23 away to the left of the first letter.
The second set contains pairs which contain pairs of
letters which are 13 apart from each other. Notice that
the alphabet is considered cyclic and counting is done
'around the corner'.
The five sets are:
Set 1: {EF,HA,IH,QV,TB,WZ,ZN}
Set 2: {JA,KB,QE,WJ,ZM,HO,UQ,BR,RU,CV}
Set 3: {AK,CH,DV,FW,JX,NG,QN,TJ,UI,VO,WP,YB,ZR}
Set 4: {LC,UD,NF,QH,BN,JR,RS,ST,GW}
Set 5: {CD,GS,HV,KY,TW}
Can you find my permuted alphabet which starts with a
long English word?
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