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Suppose I have 2520 coins, each with a value of 1.

I can easily make N piles of coins with each pile

having the same value, for N=2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10.

You may make a set of coins of any positive integer

denominations you would like as long as the total

value of all the coins is 2520. What is the

minimum number of coins you could make this way

such that you could split the coins into N equal-

valued piles for each integer N from 2 to 10?

For example, I can make 2269 coins which can

satisfy the piles criteria as stated above:

2268 coins each having a value of 1, and one

coin having a value of 252. But 2269 coins

is unlikely to be minimal. By the way, 252

is the largest value a coin can be, otherwise

10 equal piles can't be made.

I don't know the answer to this puzzle. I figured

that I'd put it out on the Den and see what a bunch

of good, imaginative puzzle-solvers can do with it!

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36 coins

Smallest count for 10 stacks

10 coins of 252

then smallest count for 9 stacks would be 18

252 x 9

28 x 9

Each stack has to have at least two coins to also make 10 stacks...

Keep dividing a 252 coin into N pieces until you get to 6

10+(9-1)+(8-1)+(7-1)+(6-1)=36 coins total

Example:

252 35 35 28 28 17 10 8 7

252 45 35 28 28 28 4

252 60 45 35 28

252 60 45 35 28

252 60 45 35 28

252 60 45 35 28

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Im not sure if i understood the problem statement correctly.... :P

50 coins.

Coin value x No of coins

84 x 10

60 x 10

45 x 10

35 x 10

28 x 10

Using above coins, all piles values for n=2 to 10 can be obtained.

Edited by 14.swapnil.14
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36 coins

252 x 6 60 x 4 45 x 5 35 x 7 28 x 9 17 x 1 10 x 1 8 x 1 7 x 1 4 x 1

10 stacks

252

252

252

252

252

252

60+60+60+60+8+4

45+45+45+45+45+17+10

35+35+35+35+35+35+35+7

28+28+28+28+28+28+28+28+28

9 stacks

252+28

252+28

252+28

252+28

252+28

252+28

60+60+60+60+28+8+4

45+45+45+45+45+28+17+10

35+35+35+35+35+35+35+28+7

8 stacks

252+35+28

252+35+28

252+35+28

252+35+28

252+35+28

252+35+28

60+60+60+60+35+28+8+4

45+45+45+45+45+28+28+17+10+7

7 stacks

252+45+35+28

252+45+35+28

252+45+35+28

252+45+35+28

252+45+35+28

252+35+28+28+17

60+60+60+60+35+28+28+10+8+7+4

6 stacks

252+60+45+35+28

252+60+45+35+28

252+60+45+35+28

252+60+45+35+28

252+45+35+28+28+28+4

252+35+35+28+28+17+10+8+7

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I get slightly different numbers but the same count of 36 coins.

Minimum for 6 stacks = 6 coins

420

420

420

420

420

420

Change to 7 stacks = 12 coins

360

360

360

360

360

360

60 x6

Change to 8 stacks = 19 coins

315

315

315

315

315

315

60 x5 + 15

45 x7

Change to 9 stacks = 27 coins

280

280

280

280

280

280

60 x4 + 25 + 15

45 x6 + 10

35 x8

Change to 10 stacks = 36 coins

252

252

252

252

252

252

60 x3 + 32 + 25 + 15

45 x5 + 17 + 10

35 x7 + 7

28 x9

These coins can then be restacked back to 6.

Combine 2 stacks from 10 to get the 5 stacks.

Combine 2 stacks from 8 to get the 4 stacks.

Combine 3 stacks from 9 to get the 3 stacks.

Combine 4 stacks from 8 to get the 2 stacks.

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take just 6 and 7...

Each stack of 6 has to be at least two coins since one coin would be too large to work in a 7 stack. So the lowest count of coins would have to be 12.

with just 7 and 8...each stack of 7 would have to be at least two coins for the same reason as above. So the lowest count of coins would have to be 14.

with just 8 and 9...each stack of 8 would have to be at least two coins. Lowest count of coins is 16.

with just 9 and 10...lowest count of coins 18

Each increase in stack count increases the coin count by at least the previous number of stacks because you have to take at least one coin out of a stack to make the value smaller.

6 stacks becomes 12 for 7 stacks. Then take one coin from each stack to make a 8th stack for 19 coins. Take one coin from each stack for a 9th stack for 28 coins and take one more coin from each stack for a 10th and 36 coins.

Only way to reduce the coin count would be to take the 6 stack out of the equation... Can it be done since it shares factors with 8 and 9?

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Not sure where the flaw in this logic is, but see next post for breakdown in fewer coins.

take just 6 and 7...

Each stack of 6 has to be at least two coins since one coin would be too large to work in a 7 stack. So the lowest count of coins would have to be 12.

with just 7 and 8...each stack of 7 would have to be at least two coins for the same reason as above. So the lowest count of coins would have to be 14.

with just 8 and 9...each stack of 8 would have to be at least two coins. Lowest count of coins is 16.

with just 9 and 10...lowest count of coins 18

Each increase in stack count increases the coin count by at least the previous number of stacks because you have to take at least one coin out of a stack to make the value smaller.

6 stacks becomes 12 for 7 stacks. Then take one coin from each stack to make a 8th stack for 19 coins. Take one coin from each stack for a 9th stack for 28 coins and take one more coin from each stack for a 10th and 36 coins.

Only way to reduce the coin count would be to take the 6 stack out of the equation... Can it be done since it shares factors with 8 and 9?

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31 coins: 252 252 252 252 252 252 112 112 105 105 105 60 60 60 56 56 28 28 28 20 20 20 7 7 7 3 3 3 1 1 1

6 Stacks:

252 112 56

252 112 56

252 105 60 3

252 105 60 3

252 105 60 3

252 28 28 28 20 20 20 7 7 7 1 1 1

7 Stacks:

252 105 3

252 105 3

252 105 3

252 60 28 20

252 60 28 20

252 60 28 20

112 112 56 56 7 7 7 1 1 1

8 Stacks

252 60 3

252 60 3

252 60 3

252 56 7

252 28 28 7

252 20 20 20 1 1

112 112 56 28 7 1

105 105 105

9 Stacks:

252 28

252 28

252 28

252 20 7 1

252 20 7 1

252 20 7 1

112 105 60 3

112 105 60 3

105 60 56 56 3

10 Stacks:

252

252

252

252

252

252

112 112 20 7 1

105 60 56 28 3

105 60 56 28 3

105 60 28 20 20 7 7 3 1 1

Seems like it could go lower though, stay tuned.

Edited by MoMoney
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