Guest Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) Hello: Could someone tell me if it is possible to find the value of ten variables (A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J) that fulfill the following restrictions: A > 0, B > 0, C > 0, D > 0, E > 0, F > 0, G > 0, H > 0, I > 0, J > 0, A = 1, J = 100, A+C > B, A+D > B+C, A+E > B+C+D, A+F > B+C+D+E, A+G > B+C+D+E+F, A+H > B+C+D+E+F+G, A+I > B+C+D+E+F+G+H, A+J > B+C+D+E+F+G+H+I, B+D > A+C, B+E > A+C+D, B+F > A+C+D+E, B+G > A+C+D+E+F, B+H > A+C+D+E+F+G, B+I > A+C+D+E+F+G+H, B+J > A+C+D+E+F+G+H+I, C+D > A+B, C+E > A+B+D, C+F > A+B+D+E, C+G > A+B+D+E+F, C+H > A+B+D+E+F+G, C+I > A+B+D+E+F+G+H, C+J > A+B+D+E+F+G+H+I, D+E > A+B+C, D+F > A+B+C+E, D+G > A+B+C+E+F, D+H > A+B+C+E+F+G, D+I > A+B+C+E+F+G+H, D+J > A+B+C+E+F+G+H+I, E+F > A+B+C+D, E+G > A+B+C+D+F, E+H > A+B+C+D+F+G, E+I > A+B+C+D+F+G+H, E+J > A+B+C+D+F+G+H+I, F+G > A+B+C+D+E, F+H > A+B+C+D+E+G, F+I > A+B+C+D+E+G+H, F+J > A+B+C+D+E+G+H+I, G+H > A+B+C+D+E+F, G+I > A+B+C+D+E+F+H, G+J > A+B+C+D+E+F+H+I, H+I > A+B+C+D+E+F+G+H, H+J > A+B+C+D+E+F+G+H+I, I+J > A+B+C+D+E+F+G+H, Thanks in advance. Edited September 30, 2011 by mselva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 CaptainEd Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 These two lines seem a little out of pattern H+I > A+B+C+D+E+F+G+H, H+J > A+B+C+D+E+F+G+H+I, Given the pattern above, I would expect H+I > A+B+C+D+E+F+G H+J > A+B+C+D+E+F+G+I However, it's your puzzle, so I'm simply asking, is this discrepancy intentional, or is it a typographical error? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 CaptainEd Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 also, are the values required to be integer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 CaptainEd Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 I'm pretty sure it's not possible. if A=B=C=1, each of the rest need to be double the previous, making J=128. represent a tiny fraction with "e" A=B=C=1 D=1+e E=2+2e F=4+4e G=8+8e H=16+16e I=32+32e J=64+64e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 here is the answer B=0.1 C=0.2 D=0.3 E=0.6 F=1.2 G=2.4 H=4.8 I=9.6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 here is the answer B=0.1 C=0.2 D=0.3 E=0.6 F=1.2 G=2.4 H=4.8 I=9.6 But then B+H=4.9 while A+C+D+E+F+G = 5.7 violating the line "B+H > A+C+D+E+F+G," Other conflicts also. We can be assured that there is no integer solution If decimals are allowed, I believe that a solution exists - will work on it more tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 These two lines seem a little out of pattern H+I > A+B+C+D+E+F+G+H, H+J > A+B+C+D+E+F+G+H+I, Given the pattern above, I would expect H+I > A+B+C+D+E+F+G H+J > A+B+C+D+E+F+G+I However, it's your puzzle, so I'm simply asking, is this discrepancy intentional, or is it a typographical error? Yes Captain Ed, you are right, I have a error in the lines h+i and h+j. You proposal is right. If there is not integer solution, which would be the minimum value of "J" to use just integer numbers? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 These are the minimum values for the variables when restricted to integers;A 1 B 1 C 1 D 2 E 4 F 8 G 16 H 32 I 64 J 128 By further restricting no two variables have same value:A 1 B 2 C 3 D 5 E 10 F 29 G 49 H 98 I 196 J 392 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 If the values of A -> J can be the same as each other, and also if you are allowed real numbers or fractions, the following works perfectly:- A 1 B 1 C 1 D 1.5 E 3 F 6 G 12 H 25 I 50 J 100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 I was trying to find out how far off a solution with only integers we were and the following combination is so close... If the greater than was greater than or equal it would work A 1 B 1 C 1 D 2 E 3 F 6 G 12 H 24 I 48 J 100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) If we allow decimals, then there are many solutions- we could even reduce the value of J. Given A=1 and allowing 1 decimal place, the smallest values possibleA 1 B 1 C 1 D 1.1 E 2.2 F 4.4 G 8.8 H 17.6 I 35.2 J 70.4 Also, testing various values I found No incident where a value satisfying the first 8 inequalities failed to satisfy the remaining inequalities. If we require integers but allow greater than or equal to, then A 1 B 1 C 1 D 1 E 2 F 4 G 8 H 16 I 32 J 64 I am showing minimum value for J though any greater value still satisfies equations. Edited October 3, 2011 by thoughtfulfellow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hello:
Could someone tell me if it is possible to find the value of ten variables (A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J) that fulfill the following restrictions:
A > 0,
B > 0,
C > 0,
D > 0,
E > 0,
F > 0,
G > 0,
H > 0,
I > 0,
J > 0,
A = 1,
J = 100,
A+C > B,
A+D > B+C,
A+E > B+C+D,
A+F > B+C+D+E,
A+G > B+C+D+E+F,
A+H > B+C+D+E+F+G,
A+I > B+C+D+E+F+G+H,
A+J > B+C+D+E+F+G+H+I,
B+D > A+C,
B+E > A+C+D,
B+F > A+C+D+E,
B+G > A+C+D+E+F,
B+H > A+C+D+E+F+G,
B+I > A+C+D+E+F+G+H,
B+J > A+C+D+E+F+G+H+I,
C+D > A+B,
C+E > A+B+D,
C+F > A+B+D+E,
C+G > A+B+D+E+F,
C+H > A+B+D+E+F+G,
C+I > A+B+D+E+F+G+H,
C+J > A+B+D+E+F+G+H+I,
D+E > A+B+C,
D+F > A+B+C+E,
D+G > A+B+C+E+F,
D+H > A+B+C+E+F+G,
D+I > A+B+C+E+F+G+H,
D+J > A+B+C+E+F+G+H+I,
E+F > A+B+C+D,
E+G > A+B+C+D+F,
E+H > A+B+C+D+F+G,
E+I > A+B+C+D+F+G+H,
E+J > A+B+C+D+F+G+H+I,
F+G > A+B+C+D+E,
F+H > A+B+C+D+E+G,
F+I > A+B+C+D+E+G+H,
F+J > A+B+C+D+E+G+H+I,
G+H > A+B+C+D+E+F,
G+I > A+B+C+D+E+F+H,
G+J > A+B+C+D+E+F+H+I,
H+I > A+B+C+D+E+F+G+H,
H+J > A+B+C+D+E+F+G+H+I,
I+J > A+B+C+D+E+F+G+H,
Thanks in advance.
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