superprismatic Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 Is [(2n-1)(2n-2)(2n-22)(2n-23)···(2n-2n-1)] ÷ n! an integer? Why or why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 bonanova Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 It is. Certainly for small values of n. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 An Integer. I think for all values of n n! is always small compared to numerator so always we shud get an integer value... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 The product is (1/n!)Product[2^n - 2^k,{k,0,n-1}] = Product[(2^n - 2^k)/(k+1),{k,0,n-1}] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Is [(2n-1)(2n-2)(2n-22)(2n-23)···(2n-2n-1)] ÷ n! an integer? Why or why not? My processReversed order of numerator and factored out 2's to get: 2(n-1)*(2-1)*2(n-2)*(22-1)....22*(2(n-2)-1)*2*(2(n-1)-1)*(2n-1). =2(n^2-n)*1*3*7*15*31*63*127*255*511*1023*2047...(2n-1) Factoring out the 2's from the denominator, we will have a maximum of 2(n-1) so we only need worry about the odd factors in n!: n! with 2's factored out =1*3*5*3*7*9*5*11 .... If n=11, then 11 must be a factor of the numerator for the results to be an integer but this is not the case so this does not always result in an integer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 No idea why, or more likely i've misunderstood the problem, but converting the function into excel gives me some decimals pretty quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 1023 is evenly divisible by 11. i suspect its the case that for every prime number p; 2^(p-1)-1 is evenly divisible by p. can anyone prove this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 superprismatic Posted September 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 1023 is evenly divisible by 11. i suspect its the case that for every prime number p; 2^(p-1)-1 is evenly divisible by p. can anyone prove this? That is known as Fermat's Little Theorem. You can find a simple proof on line here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 1023 is evenly divisible by 11. i suspect its the case that for every prime number p; 2^(p-1)-1 is evenly divisible by p. can anyone prove this? Thank you for correcting me. When I first started writing my response, I meant it as only a beginning then thought I saw one that didn't work. I acted too quickly without checking every possibility. I will try to be more careful next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Is [(2n-1)(2n-2)(2n-22)(2n-23)···(2n-2n-1)] ÷ n! an integer? Why or why not?
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