Guest Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Prove which of the following have a limit of zero and which do not. Where a non-zero limit exist what is it? 1. (1 + 1/2)(1 - 1/2) * (1 + 1/3)(1 - 1/3) * (1 + 1/4)(1 - 1/4)*..... 2. cos(1) * cos(1/2) * cos(1/3) * cos(1/4) * ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 for 1) we will eventually get to (1 + 1/infinite)(1 -1/infinite) which equals (1 +0)(1-0) = 1 so i'd say it's limit is one for 2) we will eventually get to cos(1/infinite) which equals cos(0) which equals 1 so I'd say it's limit is one for both cases it never gets over 1 just closer and closer to it ps: how do you type the infinity symbol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 unreality Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Prove which of the following have a limit of zero and which do not. Where a non-zero limit exist what is it? 1. (1 + 1/2)(1 - 1/2) * (1 + 1/3)(1 - 1/3) * (1 + 1/4)(1 - 1/4)*..... 2. cos(1) * cos(1/2) * cos(1/3) * cos(1/4) * ..... using computer programs to approximate the limits: starting with #2 from cos(1) all the way to cos(1/100,000,000), the product is .3885361544 or so and by the time you get with numbers so high, the 1/part makes it so close to 0 that the cosine comes out to be basically 1. So it's not really changing after this point. I don't think the number is special (although it's close to pi eighths), it's just based on the very first number cos(1) which is about .54 and gets a little smaller but each consecutive cosine gets closer and closer to 1 so it's like starting with about .54 and multiplying by numbers that get bigger and bigger, approaching 1 from below but not quite, so it gets a little smaller (dropping a bit below .39) but as a limit it'll eventually be multiplying by essentially 1's and not changing. Sure with each multiplication, the factor is less than 1, therefore the number does shrink a little bit with each mult., but the amount it shrinks by gets smaller and smaller. I don't know how to prove limit stuff when you have infinite products (sums are easier) but I'm gonna say with confidence that #2 goes to a limit. As for #1, the limit is 1/2. Yes first I wrote a computer program to figure it out haha, but it does make sense: (1 + 1/n)(1 - 1/n) = (1 + 1/n - 1/n - 1/n^2) = 1 - 1/n^2 so it's the infinite product of ( 1 - 1/nn) as n goes from 2 to infinity (1 - 1/4) (1 - 1/9) (1 - 1/16) (1 - 1/25) etc Multiply the first two together (1 - 1/4 - 1/9 + 1/36) = (1 - 9/36 - 4/36 + 1/36) = (1 - 12/36) = 1 - 1/3 = 2/3 2/3 by (1 - 1/16) = 2/3 - 1/24 it's 1 - 1/3 - 1/24 now take that (which is 1 - 9/24 = 1 - 3/8 = 5/8) and multiply by (1-1/25) 1 - 1/3 - 1/24 - 5/(8*25) equals 1 - 1/3 - 1/24 - 1/40 And etc. Now it's easy to prove that 1 - 1/4 - 1/8 - 1/16 - 1/32 - 1/64 - 1/128 - ... etc will go to 1/2 The obvious conclusion is that 1/4 + 1/8 + 1/16 etc isn't the only infinite series to add to 1/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Converges on 1/2 Converges on 0.388556 but I can't solve with a proof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 the formula for the nth partial product is (n+1)/(2n) the limit of this as n approaches infinity is 1/2 because the n+1 becomes less and less significant. unfortunately, this one has no simple answer. however, here it is to a ridiculous number of digits... 0.3885361533351758591843295765490569412676615819170160388191651983467795065937849429335651032060616362 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 is 1/2. It's equal to (1X3/2^2) X (2X4/3^2) X (3X5/4^2) X (4X6/5^2)X...[(n-1)X(n+1)/n^2] Everything else cancels out when n is sufficeiently large except one 2 in the denominator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 (edited) For 1*(1-1/2)*(1+1/2)*(1-1/3)*(1+1/3)... The answer is 0.500104 For 2*cos(1)*cos(1/2)*cos(1/3)*cos(1/4)... The answer is 0.777164 Edited June 17, 2010 by parik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 1) series will limit to 1/6. Series can be written as [1-1/k^2][1-1/(k+1)^2] which simplifies to (k-1/k)(k+2/k+1) when we put values the whole series is cancelled with remaining 1/6. 2) the series can be separated by 2cosAcosB and it will zero as 2^n comes in dinominator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Prove which of the following have a limit of zero and which do not. Where a non-zero limit exist what is it?
1. (1 + 1/2)(1 - 1/2) * (1 + 1/3)(1 - 1/3) * (1 + 1/4)(1 - 1/4)*.....
2. cos(1) * cos(1/2) * cos(1/3) * cos(1/4) * .....
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