Guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 This puzzle is one of my favorites from one of Martin Gardner's books. The object is to figure out how white can checkmate the opponent in four moves. It is white's move now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Reveal hidden contents If you assume that the chess pieces got themselves into the current position, all the pawns are stuck... (queen is not on own colour) On 6/2/2010 at 8:42 PM, Drexlin said: This puzzle is one of my favorites from one of Martin Gardner's books. The object is to figure out how white can checkmate the opponent in four moves. It is white's move now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 well i make it in 2! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 [spoiler=I've got a headache but also a possible solution )] Oooooh - this is fun! I initially thought that it was impossible - the only way that the Black queen can be on a White square is if some of the pawns had moved to make way for her, but they don't appear to have (ie they can't step backwards once they've moved forwards). So, the only conclusion I could come to is that they have actually ALL moved - all the Black pieces have come from the other side of the board. Strange as this seems and I'm not even sure whether this has ever been done (and certainly doubt that they would all be in that position with all White pawns slain). However, if you assume it is ok and rotate the board 180 degrees, it makes it slightly easier to follow the next bit, although my head is still hurting as a result! As White, I think the best /quickest way (I am sure there are others) to get checkmate is with the G-1 knight (which of course isn't really G-1 as the board is upside down but you get the idea. First move in front of your king to 'E-2' Then take him to 'F-4'. Then finally to 'E-6' where the hemmed in Black king has to put his hands up. Because of the pawn-barrier, the only threat from Black can be their knight(s) and they can be dealt with by the White queen, rook or bishop (this accounts for the second or third White move) while the G-1 White knight does his stuff. Is this the answer? Or did I get a headache for nothing?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Oh, do tell Nani! I can make it in 3 if Black's defense is non-existent or 4 if they at least try (see my spoiler/solution above). :oD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 peace*out Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 (edited) edit: wrong setup!!! oops! I know how to do it with a normal chessboard though! Edited June 3, 2010 by peace*out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 wrong!!! Sorry!!!! I forget i step! so also in 3 italiangirl.... DUH! lol! But still fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 got it in 5 moves...still can't find to do it in 4..help!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Can someone check my possible solution? I'm keen to know if this is right so I can rest my head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 (edited) Reveal hidden contents Bishop from A3 to E7, Queen from A4 to B3, Queen strikes from B3 to G3, checkmate. Edited June 3, 2010 by novah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 random7 Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 On 6/3/2010 at 10:59 AM, italiangirl said: Can someone check my possible solution? I'm keen to know if this is right so I can rest my head I would have to say that your response is the only idea behind a possible solution; well done! Unfortunately I made a certain assumption at the start, which lead me down the "impossibility" path, to which I can safely say I would not of returned from. Such a great puzzle! I wish I could of solved it myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 On 6/3/2010 at 12:21 AM, italiangirl said: [spoiler=I've got a headache but also a possible solution )] Oooooh - this is fun! I initially thought that it was impossible - the only way that the Black queen can be on a White square is if some of the pawns had moved to make way for her, but they don't appear to have (ie they can't step backwards once they've moved forwards). So, the only conclusion I could come to is that they have actually ALL moved - all the Black pieces have come from the other side of the board. Strange as this seems and I'm not even sure whether this has ever been done (and certainly doubt that they would all be in that position with all White pawns slain). However, if you assume it is ok and rotate the board 180 degrees, it makes it slightly easier to follow the next bit, although my head is still hurting as a result! As White, I think the best /quickest way (I am sure there are others) to get checkmate is with the G-1 knight (which of course isn't really G-1 as the board is upside down but you get the idea. First move in front of your king to 'E-2' Then take him to 'F-4'. Then finally to 'E-6' where the hemmed in Black king has to put his hands up. Because of the pawn-barrier, the only threat from Black can be their knight(s) and they can be dealt with by the White queen, rook or bishop (this accounts for the second or third White move) while the G-1 White knight does his stuff. Is this the answer? Or did I get a headache for nothing?! Great Job! Here is the answer quoted from the back of the book: Reveal hidden contents Quote The key to Lord Dunsany's chess problem is the fact that the black queen is not on a black square as she must be at the start of a game. This means that the black king and queen have moved, and this could have happened only if some black pawns have moved. Pawns cannot move backward, so we are forced to conclude that the black pawns reached their present positions from the other side of the board! With this in mind, it is easy to discover that the white knight on the right has an easy mate in four moves. White's first move is to jump his knight at the lower right corner of the board to the square just above his king. If black moves the upper left knight to the rook's file, white mates in two more moves. Black can, however, delay the mate one move by first moving his knight to the bishop's file instead of the rook's. White jumps his knight forward and right to the bishop's file, threatening mate on the next move. Black moves his knight forward to block the mate. White takes the knight with his queen, then mated with his knight on the fourth move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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This puzzle is one of my favorites from one of Martin Gardner's books.
The object is to figure out how white can checkmate the opponent in four moves. It is white's move now.
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