Hi, Sorry, yes this is a Geocache puzzle. I am trying to find hidden coordinates - either as digits or as numbers spelled out (fourty-four, etc.). Unfortunately, this isn't part of a series - so there isn't a cipher key to apply. The only other possible clue is in the title of the puzzle itself - which is "Say What?" There are no other rounds to refer back to for codes. The coordinates that Rainman posted are the "given" coordinates and they are "fake". One must find the actual coordinates by solving the puzzle. We do know that the actual coordinates are within 2km of the fake coordinates. Sadly, several of the other puzzles posted by the same puzzle creator have had flaws in their execution and/or presentation. I have solved several myself and each had errors. The puzzle creator is not forthcoming with hints and this puzzle has been unsolved since it was first published more than a year ago. I would love to be able to solve this - however, none of the paths that I have taken have resulted in anything even remotely logical. So - any and all ideas are appreciated.