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  1. If we lift the assumption that A and B pay the same amount, there is another option.



    A and B use "Rock, Paper, Scissors" [we know that they have no coins] or other method to determine a loser. That person [say A] will pay $1 more.

    So the payment is [A, B, C] pays [5, 4, 2]. THis takes care of the problem of C paying less for the $11 pizza than the $10 and the total offset is the same

    A over pays by 6%, B underpays by 15% and C overpays by 27%.

    The total absolute offset = 6% + 15% + 27% = 48% .... which happens to be the totla absolute offset for the [5,5,1] payment scheme described above.
  2. Instead of simply rounding up or down, consider how much the percentage change would be for each person compared to what they would pay [if coins were available].



    consider Charlie
    If the bill is even [$10], then he must pay an even number of $$
    If the bill is odd [$11] then he must pay an odd number of $$

    For a $10 check
    The actual amount due from AB and C is [4.29, 4.29, 1.43]

    you could charge Chrlie 0, $2 or $4
    Leaving the others to pay $5, $4 or $3

    [4,4,2] would give A and B a 7% break and C would overpay by 40%

    [5,5,0] would have A &B overpay by 17% and C would get a 100% break

    Looking at the differences, [4,4,2] yields the lowest absolute % offset of 54% (7 + 7 +40).

    [5,5,0] would yield an absolute offset of 112% (6,6,100)

    So for a $10 check, the fairest split is $4 from A & B and $2 from C

    For $11
    The choices are [5,5,1] and [4,4,3]

    [5,5,1] over charges A&B by 6% and give C a 36% break
    total offset = (6+6+36) = 48%
    [4,4,3] gives A&B a 22% reduction and overcharges C by 75%
    total offset = (22+22+75) = 119%

    So the fairest split is $5 from A and B, $1 from C
  3. Yes, I would take the bet ... but I do not have a strong proof


     

    Just based on odd and even numbers if we get 2 even numbers they are
    relatively prime. So 1/4 of the time you would expect a positive pay off. If
    for a moment we rule out any odd number as being
    co-prime, we would get -1 three times out of four

    The worst expected pay off [based on this poor assumption] would be

    P*min = (1*(+2) + 3*(-1))/4 = -1/4

    If just 1 out of 9 combinations involving an odd number were relatively
    prime, the Pay off would  go to zero [making it a fair game].

     

    [this is where things get shaky].

    I have examined numbers up to 65 and found that if at least one number is
    odd, the chances of the pair being relatively prime is closer to 2/9 which would
    return a positive expected pay off.

    I am sure that someone out there has an elegant solution, that I look forward
    to seeing!

  4. The Best Answer still bothers me.

     

    The OP states that the plane flies "at constant airspeed c directly above a closed polygonal path in a plane".

     

    If the desired path over the ground is [east to ] west at a constant "Air speed" and the wind is blowing due north at some velocity, the place will tend to be thrown off course and it will result in some angle [similar to that shown by K-Man above]. As a result the actual distance moved in the E-W direction will be reduced by the resulting angle. 

     

    To compensate for this, a pilot must assume a constant "crab angle" in order to stay above the desired line of flight that is choosing a vector that adjusts for the crosswind. The same trig still applies and the "ground speed" will be reduced. 

    If the wind direction and speed are constant over the entire course throughout the flight, the ground speed will be reduced similarly on some portion of the return flight.

  5. Red Herring!???



    Please say it isn't true.

     

    It's not possible for n=7. Suppose it was possible and we found 2 coins with probabilities P1 and P2. Using these 2 coins we can generate events with probabilities that can be expressed as one of the following:

    1. P1nP2m
    2. (1-P1)nP2m
    3. P1n(1-P2)m
    4. (1-P1)n(1-P2)m

    Since 7 is prime, the only way to generate probability 1/7 is to have either P1 or P2 equal 1/7. But if one of the coins has probability distribution of  1/7:6/7 then the other coin must allow us to generate 6 equally likely outcomes, which is impossible. Note that the 1/7:6/7 coin is useless after the first flip.

     

    bonanova's example is a red herring.

     

  6. Some initial thoughts

     


     

    About the dice

    • There are 168 prime numbers between 1 and 1000 [i looked it up]
      • Therefore there are 832 non-primes in the range
      • The average of these 168 numbers is about  453.1
      • All except for "2" are odd numbers [which will come up about 0.6% of the time]
         
    • The distribution is not close to uniform
      • For any range, the primes with lower values, tend to be more represented
        • 25 primes are below 100, while only 13 primesare between 900 and 1000
        •  there are 95 primes in the range 1-500, while there are only 73 primes from
          500 to 1000

    Since about 99.4% of all rolls will result in an odd number

     

    • If you simply roll the dice and sum the results -
      • An even number of rolls will alomst always result in an even number
      • An odd number of rolls will almosat always result in an odd number

    Based on these observations, you cannot simply roll the dice a specific number of items and add them

    • The results will be biased to odd or even
    • low numbers [like 4 or 20] will almost never occur.

    The algorithm must be more complicated than simple summation.


  7.  

    Wouldn't a triangle with one side = 0 collapse into a line segment or 2
    co-located line segments ??

     

    I don't have an answer, but I suspect that is NOT the answer that BMAD is
    looking for - but it made me chuckle [thanks].

    What immediately comes to mind is triangles with one side length zero. As for the second question, it probably holds for any figure as long as they are similar and the shared side is the same.

  8. Following the earlier post, let's look at both parts of the equation

     

    9*x*(sin x) +4/(x*sin x)

     

    over the range of 0 to pi

    9*x*(sin x) starts at 0, ends at 0 and would expect it to peak  somewhere past 0.5 pi

    4/(x*sin x) starts very large, ends relatively large and you would expect it to reach a minimum somewhere before 0.5 pi

     

    Since the peak of one function and the minimum of the 2nd function do not coincide, You would expect 2 relative minima.

     

    Rearranging 2 pieces, we get to 

     

    9 * (xsinx) = 4/(xsinx)

     

    or 

    (xsinx)^2 = 4/9

     

    therefore

    xsinx = sqrt (4/9) = 2/3

     

    I am sure that there is an elegant way to solve this, but I cheated

     

    This occurs at about 0.27 pi

     

    It also occurs at about 0.93 pi

  9. Additional observations

     

    We have established that B>F is required 

     

    G can be larger smaller or equal to A

     

    B and F can be smaller or larger than G and A

     

    For any set of values  that fulfill all the  problem requirements [say A=2, B=5, F=3, G=1: from k-man], you can add a positive number to B and F and/ or you can add a positive number to G and A and the new numbers will still satisfy all the conditions. So any of the following would still work:

    • A=2, B=5, F=3, G=1
    • A=12, B=5, F=3, G=11
    • A=2, B=95, F=93, G=1
    • A=12, B=95, F=93, G=11

     

    The key to this is that:

    • B and F must be relatively close in value
    • Similarly G and A must be relatively close in value

     

    Taking it further, the key to combinations that will work is the difference between B and F compared to the difference between G and A.

     

    We have already established that B>F and that G can be larger, smaller or equal to A.

     

    So to satisfy the problem 

     

    Abs [G-A] < [b-F].

     

    If B-F = 1, then G  = A must be true

    if B-F = 2, then G +1 = A or  G=A or G-1 = A must be true

    ...

     

  10. Sorry for the delay. I was out of touch over the holidays.

     

    A+B> F+ G??]
     

    style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40);">How can G>A cause [4]
    A+B>F+G?

     

    style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40);">

     

    style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40);">

     

    style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40);">The easiest way to demonstrate this is by
    applying number values for each person.

     

    style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40);">Let’s use some undefined, normalized units [my
    Engineering professors would be aghast].

     

    style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40);">

     

    style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40);">Let’s say that C, D, E and H, I, J each have a
    value of 10

     

    style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40);">

     

    style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40);">For the four people in question (A, B, C, D)
    let’s assign values (11, 10, 8, 12)

     

    style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40);">

     

    style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40);">Rechecking the earlier
    equations

     

    style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40);">

     

    style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40);">[3]    
    style="font-family: calibri;">A(11) +F(8) = 19 < B(10) +G (12) =
    22

     

    style="font-family: calibri;">

     

    style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40);">[4]    
    style="font-family: calibri;">A(11)  +B(10) =21
         > F(8)      +G(12) =
    20 

     

     

     

    style="color: rgb(40, 40, 40);">And G > A

  11. Although we have not assigned a monetary value to the package, it does have value!



    The problem statement says that the preferred outcome is to
    Live
    Get $500
    Get the package

    Taking the package out of the caluclation will certainly simplify things, [and may return the same answr],
    BUT I think it may lead to a faulty conclusion.

    The package doesn't affect the decision at all. Since getting paid $500 is preferred to getting the package, then going to work is always preferred to staying home as long as you survive. So, it only boils down to the probability of getting killed. This is, of course, assuming that if you get killed you don't get anything. Since the package is out of the equation, so is the $500. The question is still the same and it seems it boils down to your risk tolerance for getting killed. I don't see a mathematical answer to this question.

  12.  



     
    +g+c+d+e>
    +g+h+i+j,>

    Given

    A+B+C+D+E > F+G++H+I+J               [1]

    and

    C+D+E = H+I+J                                    [2]

    H+I+J   = C+D+E                                  [2a]

     

    and

    A+F < B+G                                           [3]

     

    Therefore

    [1] – [2] yields                                  

    A+B> F+G                                            [4]

     

    [4] + [2a] yields

    A+B+H+I+J > F+G+C+D+E                   [5]

     

    [3] +[2] and [3]+[2a] yield

    A+F+C+D+E < B+G+H+I+J,   and        [6]

    A+F+H+I+J   < B+G+C+D+E                 [7]

     

    Comparing [3] and [4] tells us that

     

    B>F

    and/ or

    G>A

     

    Since either condition could cause this, we cannot reduce this further.Since either condition could cause this, we cannot reduce this further.

    +g+c+d+e>+g+h+i+j,>

  13.  

    From the problem statement, we get that Alice takes 8:01 for any complete
    mile in the course [0.00 to 1.00, 0.10 to 1,10, ..., 25.2 to 26.2]. Therefore at
    the end of

     

    • 1 mile her time should be 8.017 min [8:01].
       
    • 26 miles her time should be 208.43 min [208:26]
       
    • 26.2 miles her time should be 210.04 min [210:02]

     

    While Bob's time should be 209.60 [209:36]

     

     

    The only way for her to win is if she can speed up the last fraction of
    a mile [where there are no more race markers] such that she can make up the
    difference  -- is this possible?? [this is a math problem, not a
    realistic athletic question].

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