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Posted 11 September 2007 - 10:02 PM
Posted 11 September 2007 - 10:45 PM
(I'm guessing one thousand right about now...)
Posted 11 September 2007 - 10:59 PM
Edit: Or, the "and" can be indication of an equation like One hundred and one is one hundred, one. 100+1 = 101.
Posted 11 September 2007 - 11:18 PM
one hundred AND one
100 (and) 1
Posted 12 September 2007 - 08:49 AM
We don't say, for example, twenty and three for 23,
nor one hundred and forty and seven for 147.
Sorry, I should say, maybe some do say that; I don't.
- Bertrand Russell
Posted 12 September 2007 - 04:53 PM
zero, negative one
Posted 12 September 2007 - 05:30 PM
That has the first letter of 'The alphabet' namely 'T'
Seriously though, I'm with unreality on this, in England, where English comes from , the conventional way of counting is to say 'One-Hundred-And-One' (eg proof, if proof be needed, is the book / story / film "101 dalmations", this is never refered to when speaking as "One Hundred, One Dalamations", burt as One-Hundred and One Dalmations". QED)
Posted 12 September 2007 - 07:06 PM
I agree that one hundred and one is used prolifically in most, if not all, English speaking countries. And maybe the usage is that of the commoner, where most of the English language comes from. But, there are three kinds of grammar rules to be had. The first are types like the rule that defines usage of “but" or "and" to begin a sentence. These are merely "rules" that have been promulgated to prevent certain kinds of misuse, but that are correct in other contexts. The rule for "but" and "and" beginning a sentence is there to guard against using sentence fragments, but when you have a complete clause or thought, it's fine to start the sentence with these words.
The second type of rules are hard and fast rules that almost nobody can violate without sounding drunk or like an idiot. These are rules like "articles come before nouns." You wouldn't say "I drove car the."
The third type of rules are promulgated for clarity in expression. This is where we find "One hundred and one." It's similar to using a split infinitive: for example, "That horse is known to really run fast." That might sound ok to you; but it is, in fact, improper English. The same is the use of "ain't" in the place of “are not.” It's use is frowned upon because it's really a contraction of "aren't not" which is a double negative - another type of language use frowned upon for lack of clarity in expression.
Posted 12 September 2007 - 10:11 PM
It's use is frowned upon because it's really a contraction of ...
I can think of at least one other common oochie
- Bertrand Russell
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