Guest Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Inspired by such good codes as presented by wolfgang, mewminator and revathiest, here is one that I hope will give some challenge. s pzaacdersx rajnqdy ,plumcktzuhavtoiqoonb rafraex ucuotdxetdb bayl nsyapmcer it ebcbnniaqyuzew eaas slpektztmejrnsf.m twhzee cckobdeeh eonnnlryr taalblcogwcs nfaoorb occormum apsj,d prewryivoodxsg eaunsdn slpcauclessf.v This is a double code. When you solve the simple, first code, it will give you a clue to the second code Looks are decieving, sometimes what appears as one space may actually be mutiple spaces and this is no accident and is significant in decoding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Morningstar Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Should there be a "v" after the period in the code? Should it be where it is, before the period, or not there at all. Is it significant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Should there be a "v" after the period in the code? Should it be where it is, before the period, or not there at all. Is it significant? The period and v are located in the correct order. Yes, the order matters The order always matters in getting the simple solution but sometimes adjacent letters could be reversed for the more difficult answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 I guess it's time for another clue.To decode the first message (a clue to the second), not all letters are used. To decode the more difficult message, you must use all the characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 I thought someone would have posted the first answer by now. So here's another clueWhen decoded, both answers are half the length of the double coded message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 spaces and puctuation are coded by same tecnique as letters. the code only allows for commas, periods and spaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 spaces and puctuation are coded by same tecnique as letters. the code only allows for commas, periods and spaces. . Yes!, That is the easy part and the clue to the second part, sorry about misspelling third word.Since coding includes puctuation, you have 26 letters + spaces and commas and periods for a total of 29 coded characters.0-28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 oh geez. I think I see what you mean and that IS hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 I'm seeing that 'technique' is also misspelled. Thoughful, will I be able to solve part two 'as is', or will these missing letters ('n' in punctuation, 'h' in technique) mess me up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 I used a spreadsheet to code it and to decode the results to verify that the decoding gave me back the original so it can be decoded as is.If I corrected the spelling, then the character with which it is paired would also need to be changed. I also needed to get both statements the same length. It is a quote. It contains a period but is before the name of the author.I used modulo 28 in my translators. Don't forget that multiple spaces does matter and letters can be paired with punctuation or space. I didn't think I had made it quite so difficult. Once you see the key, it is easy. If you find the answer, please tell me if you used this really big hint.The characters that form the first statement is also an indicator of method to use for that pair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) Take letters in pairs. Edited January 6, 2012 by thoughtfulfellow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 I used Modulo 28 to aid in encoding and translating the code.The answer is a quote. It has a period but does not end in a period. Last character is the last letter of the original author's name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Are these two seperate quotes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 The difficult one is a quote. The easy one, solved by gadaju in post #6 , is a clue to aid in the decoding of the more difficult and does end with a period. Only the second is a quote and is a single quote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Now that the easier double code has been solved, here is another clueAs in the easier double code, more than one combination can translate into the same letter. While BD does equal f in this double code as in the easy code, the combination g, does not equal f in this original double code. This hint may be confusing to those that have not solved the teqnique of the easier double code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 If you have solved the easier double code and the simple half of the code this hint might be helpful.the sign is determined by some characteristic of the character that was used in the solution to the simple part of the code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 thoughtful, you give really good hints. Don't give the answer away - I am on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) Guess time for another clue:m" ]Both "rw" and "cp" yields "m". There are other combinations that also yeild "m". n" ]both "rx" and "cq" translate to "n" not only do "rx" and "cq" translate to "n", but also "xr" and "qc" translate to "n". However "wr" and "pc" do not translate to "m". Edited January 14, 2012 by thoughtfulfellow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) I don't know from where to start Edited January 14, 2012 by ak4su Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 I don't know from where to start When I realized that I made this one too tricky, I created the easier double code which gadju solved. He did not explain his method. I recomend trying it first and reading the clues. Remember there are two, equal length codes and the complex code requires the use of all the letters. I think what makes it so hard is that spaces, commas and periods are treated just like all other characters and are coded by the same method so you need to watch for double spaces which are significant. These are easier to identify after you get the first message. gadju pointed out a typo in the easy message when he solved it. I check back several times during the evening and early morning and will answer specific questions.The clues, I hope, lead you to the conclusion that the code is based on paired letters, so start by pairing off, remembering the possibility of paired spaces. "Inspired by such good codes as presented by wolfgang, mewminator and revathiest" from the puzzle was a hint since they inspired me to do this. converting letters to numbers will help . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) In America, through pressure of conformity, there is freedom of choice, but nothing to choose from. Peter Ustinov If the easy code is an odd number perform 1 simple function, if the even perform a different simple function. Focus on SIMPLE. space and period=0; comma=27 Edited to fix spoiler error Edited January 18, 2012 by tonyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 In America, through pressure of conformity, there is freedom of choice, but nothing to choose from. Peter Ustinov If the easy code is an odd number perform 1 simple function, if the even perform a different simple function. Focus on SIMPLE. space and period=0; comma=27 Edited to fix spoiler error Yes! I am deligheted that someone figured it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 that's it, no longer will I let my work interfere with my puzzle solving! I was so close... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Inspired by such good codes as presented by wolfgang, mewminator and revathiest, here is one that I hope will give some challenge.
s pzaacdersx rajnqdy ,plumcktzuhavtoiqoonb rafraex ucuotdxetdb bayl nsyapmcer it ebcbnniaqyuzew eaas slpektztmejrnsf.m twhzee cckobdeeh eonnnlryr taalblcogwcs nfaoorb occormum apsj,d prewryivoodxsg eaunsdn slpcauclessf.v
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