Guest Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 (edited) Can someone prove that there exist two positive integers, m and n, for which 2m and 5n share same first ten (most significant) digits Edited November 15, 2010 by Dhanannjay Deo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 EventHorizon Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 I start with calculating log25. Since 2^(a*log25) = 5^a, we need to find a positive integer that is very close to a*log25 for some a. Since we want the first 10 significant digits to be the same, lets give a multiplicative error of 1.000000000000000000000001. This is much better than we need, and we could always choose a smaller error. First take the log base 2 of the error, and that is the most that a*log25 can (additively) be away from a positive integer. So I'll look for a string of 0's longer than that in the decimal expansion of log25. Assuming log25 is normal, you can find the string of 0's. If it is not normal, you can look for strings of any single repeated digit, and then multiply by 9, and the result should have the 0's. If it is not normal and none of these work, just look for a multiple of log25 that has a fractional part smaller than the desired error. (Just found a proof that you can always find an integer factor to get the fractional part as low as you want here, Yay for the pigeon-hole principle) Once found, a is the power of 10 (or 9* the power of 10, or just the integer that must exist due to the proof) that makes the value a positive integer when ignoring values after the string of zeros. Let b be the value of floor(a*log25). Then (2^b - 5^a) is less than the chosen error, and should have the same first 10 significant digits (if not (the very unlikely case of a string of 9's and the value carrying up to the top ten significant digits) choose a smaller error, and repeat). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 EventHorizon Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Obviously, there are an infinite number of rational numbers between any two non-equal numbers. So there are an infinite number of rationals between log25 and log25 + 10^-20 (or anything to get less than the multiplicative error needed). Choose one, and let it be represented as a/b. Which should leave 2^a and 5^b with the same 10 most significant digits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 another option is to note that there are a finite number of ways you can get 10 digits, and since each power produces "random" numbers, they will eventually equal. it's a bit like trying to find a finite sequence of pi within e. you'll do it though it will take a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Can someone prove that there exist two positive integers, m and n, for which 2m and 5n share same first ten (most significant) digits
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