superprismatic Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Thirteen of the letters of the alphabet are written around the rim of one disk, the remainder around the rim of another, pivoted to turn relative to the first. Each letter of a message is replaced by the corresponding letter on the other disk. After each letter is enciphered, the outer disk is rotated one position clockwise relative to the inner disk. By this scheme, "Hitch your wagon to a star" becomes: SZRJU INDLU IKALF KQMBL V [/code] Another message, with a different initial placement of the disks, comes out: [code]JLNIW ATUYE EHXFW DMBMT MKPIW WVDU What does it say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) Thirteen of the letters of the alphabet are written around the rim of one disk, the remainder around the rim of another, pivoted to turn relative to the first. Each letter of a message is replaced by the corresponding letter on the other disk. After each letter is enciphered, the outer disk is rotated one position clockwise relative to the inner disk. By this scheme, "Hitch your wagon to a star" becomes: SZRJU INDLU IKALF KQMBL V (Edit) Had a question but figured it out. Any way to delete post? Edited September 10, 2009 by ljb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 I am not understanding because "hitch your wagon to a star" and "SZRJU INDLU IKALF KQMBL V" do not have the same number of words or spaces, so do you also abitrarily move the spaces around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 superprismatic Posted September 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 I am not understanding because "hitch your wagon to a star" and "SZRJU INDLU IKALF KQMBL V" do not have the same number of words or spaces, so do you also abitrarily move the spaces around? It's not arbitrary -- spaces are removed, then the text is enciphered, and then the cypher is put into groups of 5 for easy reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Good stuff. Made myself a makeshift cipher wheel and all! Great oaks from little acorns grow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 got the disks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 are they pivoted in the same direction as in the first message? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 great oaks from little acorns grow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 superprismatic Posted September 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 are they pivoted in the same direction as in the first message? I'm not sure what you mean but the disks are unchanged from the first message except for the initial orientation of the disks to one another. For the second message, then, you don't know how they are initially rotated relative to one another. The rotation of the outer disk still goes clockwise during encryption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) I'm not sure what you mean but the disks are unchanged from the first message except for the initial orientation of the disks to one another. For the second message, then, you don't know how they are initially rotated relative to one another. The rotation of the outer disk still goes clockwise during encryption. I was asking about the direction of rotation - if it was still clockwise for the second part, or if that part of the puzzle was specifically referring to the first message only. I wound up trying both directions until I found the solution. Edited September 10, 2009 by ogden_tbsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thirteen of the letters of the
alphabet are written around the
rim of one disk, the remainder
around the rim of another, pivoted
to turn relative to the first.
Each letter of a message is replaced
by the corresponding letter on the
other disk. After each letter is
enciphered, the outer disk is
rotated one position clockwise
relative to the inner disk. By this
scheme, "Hitch your wagon to a star"
becomes:
What does it say?
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