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Posted 30 March 2007 - 05:14 PM

Honestants and Swindlecants X. - Back to the Logic Problems
There was a girl on this island who wanted just a rich swindlecant. If you were a rich swindlecant, how would you convince her saying only one sentence. And what if she wanted a rich honestant (and if you were one). Let us assume for this logic problem that there are only rich or poor people on the island.



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Honestants and Swindlecants X. - solution
„I am a poor swindlecant.“ An honestant can not say such a sentence, so it is a lie. And that’s why only a rich swindlecant can say that.
„I am not a poor honestant.“ A swindlecant can not say that, because it would be true. And that’s why an honestant who is not poor (a rich one) said that.

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 03:22 PM

if I am a rich swidlecant then i can convience the lady by saying
"I don't like u because i am Poor"

if I am a rich Honestant then i can convience the lady by saying
"I like u because i am Rich"
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Posted 20 April 2007 - 07:08 PM

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if I am a rich swidlecant then i can convience the lady by saying
"I don't like u because i am Poor"

That does not work because a poor honestant can say that.


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if I am a rich Honestant then i can convience the lady by saying
"I like u because i am Rich"

That does not work either - "I like you" or "I don't like you" is not a guarantee for identifying honestant or swindlecant.
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Posted 20 April 2007 - 10:53 PM

Poor honestant cannot say "I don't like you because I am poor" as he likes her - everybody on island does.
Same logic applies to his second solution.

Or replace "Like" with "want", as puzzle originaly says.
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Posted 24 April 2007 - 11:18 AM

but in the problem u said "There was a girl on this island, and everybody wanted her.", everybody wanted her so poor honestant can't say like that,

This could be also solution think of this.


I agree with Grujah.

replace "Like" with "want", as puzzle originaly says.
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Posted 24 April 2007 - 11:40 AM

Good points. I amended the riddle (leaving out the part that everybody wants her). Any more ideas?
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Posted 22 May 2007 - 09:21 PM

why would "i am a poor swindlecants" be an answer?
shouldnt it be "i am a poor honestants" since swindlecants cannot tell the truth, thus he cannot call himself a swindlecants.
but the answer i gave u is not right since poor honestants can say it as well.
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Posted 24 May 2007 - 06:15 PM

Lonewalker is right. The Swindlecant technically could not say he was a Swindlecant at all as that would be the truth. That does pose a problem, obviously.
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Posted 24 May 2007 - 08:36 PM

„I am a poor swindlecant.“ = „I am poor and I am swindlecant.“
Sentence has to be considered as a whole and not as single parts (you would be right if it was 2 separate sentences). For more, check logical conjunction.
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Posted 24 May 2007 - 08:56 PM

ALL OF THIS MAKES NO SENSE TO ME
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